Support Needed Backing up E-shop titles?

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So, I'm planning to remove a couple of games from my SD card for now, and I do know that it's possible to back up e-shop titles from your SD card, so my question is this, where exactly are the game files located? and secondly, are my downloads attached to my nintendo account like in steam? Or is it just fixed to my 3DS system itself?
 
So, I'm planning to remove a couple of games from my SD card for now, and I do know that it's possible to back up e-shop titles from your SD card, so my question is this, where exactly are the game files located? and secondly, are my downloads attached to my nintendo account like in steam? Or is it just fixed to my 3DS system itself?
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As far as I'm aware, it's impossible. The only potential way to do so would be through homebrew, but it would require System/Kernel access (impossible for now).

And yes, downloads are tied to your account anyway, so you won't be charged another time if you download a game you've bought from the eShop. However, if you plan on switching to another 3DS system, a System Transfer might be required.
 
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Yes, just like @D4rkDragon. How if when you downloaded a game from eShop before creating an account on Club Nintendo (and I did that before the existence of NNID)? Could I save those games?

Before CN was closed, those games (there are two games exactly) were not in the download history list.
 
Yes, just like @D4rkDragon. How if when you downloaded a game from eShop before creating an account on Club Nintendo (and I did that before the existence of NNID)? Could I save those games?

Before CN was closed, those games (there are two games exactly) were not in the download history list.
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I suppose yes. I'm not sure, but I think that during the pre-NNID era, game keys (= some code saying you bought a game) were probably stored in a secure/inaccessible part of the NAND. And I do think that with the apparition of NNIDs, keys were synced with a server, and (surely) wiped off the NAND.

So basically, keys would probably have been stored on NAND, and when NNID appeared, they just got stored on Ninty's servers under your NNID, I guess.
 
As far as I'm aware, it's impossible. The only potential way to do so would be through homebrew, but it would require System/Kernel access (impossible for now).

And yes, downloads are tied to your account anyway, so you won't be charged another time if you download a game you've bought from the eShop. However, if you plan on switching to another 3DS system, a System Transfer might be required.
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Not impossible. 9.2 and below can use it, combined with emuNAND, there you go. You mean it's impossible for him right?

I suppose yes. I'm not sure, but I think that during the pre-NNID era, game keys (= some code saying you bought a game) were probably stored in a secure/inaccessible part of the NAND. And I do think that with the apparition of NNIDs, keys were synced with a server, and (surely) wiped off the NAND.

So basically, keys would probably have been stored on NAND, and when NNID appeared, they just got stored on Ninty's servers under your NNID, I guess.
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ARM9 kernel can bypass everything, any part of the NAND secure or not is unsecure.
 
Not impossible. 9.2 and below can use it, combined with emuNAND, there you go. You mean it's impossible for him right?


ARM9 kernel can bypass everything, any part of the NAND secure or not is unsecure.
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Yes. If he's running 9.3+, he's out of luck. <9.2 can do that, but generally, at this point, we're falling into the gray area. Same goes with emuNAND stuff. I'd rather advise him to stay away from this stuff for legal purposes.
 
Yes. If he's running 9.3+, he's out of luck. <9.2 can do that, but generally, at this point, we're falling into the gray area. Same goes with emuNAND stuff. I'd rather advise him to stay away from this stuff for legal purposes.
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Well, it is legal. What is not is to use emuNANDs (or even sysNANDs) with disabled checks to run games that you should have bought. Otherwise, it's legal.
 
I mentioned emuNAND because he could play online, but I see your point.
 
Well, it is legal. What is not is to use emuNANDs (or even sysNANDs) with disabled checks to run games that you should have bought. Otherwise, it's legal.
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That's kinda what I wanted to say. Backing up games is okay, but using emuNAND or hacked sysNAND isn't.
 
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That's kinda what I wanted to say. Backing up games is okay, but using emuNAND or hacked sysNAND isn't.
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Well, no, you still say something I didn't :p
emuNAND is ok to me if its goal is only to have a hacked sysNAND (not updated) but still be able to use the eshop, etc.
Hacked sysNAND is ok to me, if its only goal is to run homebrews and allow emuNAND.
What we agree with though is that none of both is ok if their goal is to play pirated games.
 
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