Could we live on Mars?

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Will Astronauts ever go to and live on Mars?


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The temperature of mars varies. A summer day on Mars may get up to 70 degrees F (20 degrees C) near the equator, but at night the temperature can go down to about minus 100 degrees F (minus 73 C). This is obviously not uninhabitable, as 20 degrees C is obviously suitable for humans, and minus 73 degrees C is near the average temperature of the Antartic, where people do in fact live, so temperature isn't an issue.

Obviously, the atmosphere is one of the main problems, as Mars is made up of 95% carbon dioxide, 3% nitrogen and other gasses, which is obviously not suitable to humans. Of course, humans can live through this by living in buildings, where vegetation could be grown and used to produce oxygen. Another main issue relating to the atmosphere is that it's less than 1% of Earth's, which does not protect the planet from the Sun's radiation (Hence why it is like how it is not). This is a huge problem, but can be avoided, using various methods, such as covering a base in martial soil.

Gravity is also an issue, but I need not delve further, since astronauts already live in low/no-gravity conditions.

Their are more issues, but these are the ones from the top of my head.
 
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There is one more major issue, though. We never know when we will run into aliens... If we are going to live on Mars, the President of all lands MUST make a peace treaty with the creatures of Mars :eek:. After all, we can't go into war with alien UFOs and such.
 
There is one more major issue, though. We never know when we will run into aliens... If we are going to live on Mars, the President of all lands MUST make a peace treaty with the creatures of Mars :eek:. After all, we can't go into war with alien UFOs and such.
Well, whilst I believe their is probably life on Mars in the form of organisms, we'd have known if actual marsian settlements and marsian technology existed, so I'm sure we'll be okay D:
 
I mean there is only one positive thing about Mars, and that is that it has water. Everything else is bad like people have said temperature, Gravity, shelter, oxygen, and many others. But if NASA really tried and the U.S. would fund it, it is very much possible. Only the future will tell us when we may or may not land on the moon. I hope I can see people land on Mars, I guess it would make me feel I watched hisory unfold right in front of my tv.
 
Isn't NASA working on a project to send a bunch of people to Mars to colonise it by the year 2021 or something? I heard about it somewhere I can't remember. They'll Also be continuously be sending people there after 1 year to increase the population and stuff.

Living on Mars would be cool, and all, but I honestly think Earth is a much better, and beautiful planet. Also too many unknowns on MArs for it to be safe.
 
Hahahahahahaha i sure don't know but it's not impossible either
 
Isn't NASA working on a project to send a bunch of people to Mars to colonise it by the year 2021 or something? I heard about it somewhere I can't remember. They'll Also be continuously be sending people there after 1 year to increase the population and stuff.

Living on Mars would be cool, and all, but I honestly think Earth is a much better, and beautiful planet. Also too many unknowns on MArs for it to be safe.

It isn't actually NASA that is working on it, but Inspiration Mars and Mars One. Inspiration Mars' objective is to send a married couple to circle the Mars, ending in their return to earth. Mars One's objective, in other hand, is to send four people to Mars for rest of their lives. And more will follow, every two years apparently...
NASA is also working on it. but their objective is to bring their astronauts back, which is a problem, since that kind of technology doesn't exist yet. Mars One can achieve their objective with existing tecnology. Well, getting to Mars, atleast...
 
Personally, I don't think it will be possible to go there with our current technology. Maybe in 200-300 years later it might be possible. Even arriving on Mars safely might be a problem right now.

I mean there is only one positive thing about Mars, and that is that it has water. Everything else is bad like people have said temperature, Gravity, shelter, oxygen, and many others. But if NASA really tried and the U.S. would fund it, it is very much possible. Only the future will tell us when we may or may not land on the moon. I hope I can see people land on Mars, I guess it would make me feel I watched hisory unfold right in front of my tv.

Is there water on Mars? From what I've read there is an evidence of water courses but no actual water.
If there is, it might be in an unavailable form like ice. If there is very low or no Oxygen on Mars, I have no idea how there can be water. But it will be really cool to see people landed on Mars!



It isn't actually NASA that is working on it, but Inspiration Mars and Mars One. Inspiration Mars' objective is to send a married couple to circle the Mars, ending in their return to earth. Mars One's objective, in other hand, is to send four people to Mars for rest of their lives. And more will follow, every two years apparently...
NASA is also working on it. but their objective is to bring their astronauts back, which is a problem, since that kind of technology doesn't exist yet. Mars One can achieve their objective with existing tecnology. Well, getting to Mars, atleast...


I don't know how they came up with the idea "one round trip to Mars". It's like leaving them to die out there -.-
There is no guarantee that they will even arrive on Mars safely in the first place.
 
The temperature of mars varies. A summer day on Mars may get up to 70 degrees F (20 degrees C) near the equator, but at night the temperature can go down to about minus 100 degrees F (minus 73 C). This is obviously not uninhabitable, as 20 degrees C is obviously suitable for humans, and minus 73 degrees C is near the average temperature of the Antartic, where people do in fact live, so temperature isn't an issue.

Obviously, the atmosphere is one of the main problems, as Mars is made up of 95% carbon dioxide, 3% nitrogen and other gasses, which is obviously not suitable to humans. Of course, humans can live through this by living in buildings, where vegetation could be grown and used to produce oxygen. Another main issue relating to the atmosphere is that it's less than 1% of Earth's, which does not protect the planet from the Sun's radiation (Hence why it is like how it is not). This is a huge problem, but can be avoided, using various methods, such as covering a base in martial soil.

Gravity is also an issue, but I need not delve further, since astronauts already live in low/no-gravity conditions.

Their are more issues, but these are the ones from the top of my head.

Many people have already visited mars and spent a lot of time in the underground bases. It sounds crazy, but Barry Soetoro was one of those people when he was in his teens. Google it.
 
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its not impossible but well unless they shut them self in thick congreat(<--- did i even spell it right?) building with no windows they wont escape the sun :panda:
an i sonr think there qould be creatures (at least the one qith inteligence) on mars either so wont say that it will happen in our life time.
 
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We'd have to start colonization and stuff early on, I read an article that talked about this. It said we'd have to send a group of people there to put some animals that could survive there in like the tardigrade or something and in like 20-30 years later we make some bases there with oxygen stored in and start planting stuff there. Then we'd have to get their every 10-15 years and slowely put some stuff there to start making a little oxygen and an ozone layer. After 400-500 years it'd be suitable for us to come there and a small ozone layer would be there and we'd have to start making some plants and growing stuff, and put some more animal and 200-300 years later we could go there again after a strong ozone layer has been created and start building buildings and roads there and 100-200 years later we could move in. That is, assuming we have enough fuel to send all this there and the tech
 
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Ofcourse we can live on Mars its just gonna take some time and technology is always advancing and the first 100's of people they will send will be smart and skilled with high tech tools, and there is still unknowns about Mars once people get there will be discovered quickening the process

There is plenty of ice on Mars (and evidence or possible rivers)

Also you forget Mans determination to adapt there is no place on earth we can live (minus deep deep water where the pressure is incredibly high)
 
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I would think that it may be possible but I am not sure that the current technology has even evolved that far but I am supposing something like this may be possible in the near future of just a few more years . Though it may be vary scary and lonely living on Mars and I personally wouldn't want to live there , unless the Earth is blowing up :3
 
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i won't blow up anytime soon lol even though i gotta admit that there is a possibility that the Earth will run out of resources, and once that happened human would do something to survive or else they just gonna go into an ice age once more.
 
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Mars used to be a living planet like Earth. But now it's nothing but a dead planet. But fear not, NASA has launch space telescopes and found couple of other planets like Earth. One of the planets is like earth on Steroids, It's 2x the mass of Earth, and it's in the Goldie lox zone, like earth is now.
The star known as Gliese 581 is utterly unremarkable in just about every way you can imagine. It's a red dwarf, the most common type of star in the Milky Way, weighing in at about a third of the mass of the sun. At 20 light years or so away, it's relatively nearby, but not close enough to set any records (it's the 117th closest star to Earth, for what that's worth). You can't even see it without a telescope, so while it lies in the direction of Libra, it isn't one of the shining dots you'd connect to form the constellation. It's no wonder that the star's name lacks even a whiff of mystery or romance.

But Gliese 581 does have one distinction — and that's enough to make it the focus of intense scientific attention. At last count, astronomers had identified more than 400 planets orbiting stars beyond the sun, and Gliese 581 was host to no fewer than four of them — the most populous solar system we know of, aside from our own. That alone would make the star intriguing. But on Wednesday, a team of astronomers announced that it had found two more planets circling the star, bringing the total to six. And one of them, assigned the name Gliese 581g, may be of truly historic significance.

For one thing, the planet is only about three or four times as massive as our home world, meaning it probably has a solid surface just like Earth. Much more important, it sits smack in the middle of the so-called habitable zone, orbiting at just the right distance from the star to let water remain liquid rather than freezing solid or boiling away. As far as we know, that's a minimum requirement for the presence of life. For thousands of years, philosophers and scientists have wondered whether other Earths existed out in the cosmos. And since the first, very un-Earthlike extrasolar planet was discovered in 1995, astronomers have been inching closer to answering that question. Now they've evidently succeeded (although to be clear, there's no way at this point to determine whether there is life on the new planet).

"We're pretty excited about it," admits Steve Vogt of the University of California at Santa Cruz, a member of the team, in a masterpiece of understatement. "I think this is what everyone's been after for the past 15 years."

Planetary scientist James Kasting of Penn State University, who wasn't involved with the discovery, agrees. "I think they've scooped the Kepler people," he says, referring to the telescope that launched into space early last year on a mission to determine how common Earthlike planets might be. The "Kepler people" have a number of candidate Earths in the can but are still working to confirm them.

Being first isn't the main reason Vogt is excited, however. "Someone had to be first," he says. "But this is right next door to us. That's the big result." What's particularly big about it is a matter of simple arithmetic. With only 116 stars closer to Earth than this one, it was hardly a sure thing that so small a sample group would produce two habitable planets, including Earth. And two such planets may be an undercount, Vogt says, since just nine out of those 100-plus stars have been studied in any detail. Indeed, one of Gliese 581g's sister planets, known as Gliese 581d (O.K., they don't put a lot of creative energy into naming these things), could conceivably be a habitable world itself.

One of the four planets known to orbit Gliese 581 before the latest discovery, 581d was found by a team of Swiss astronomers in 2007 and was thought to be outside the habitable zone and thus too cold for liquid water. But a reanalysis last year brought it into the zone, albeit just barely. The problem is, 581d is too big to be Earthlike; it's probably made mostly of nonwater ice, like Neptune and Uranus, which makes a poorer candidate for life than 581g.

Lost in the excitement over possible life on the new world is what a remarkable achievement its mere discovery was. Detecting a planet this small is monstrously hard — and would have been impossible when Vogt and co-discoverer Paul Butler of the Carnegie Institution of Washington first got into the planet-hunting game in the early 1990s. The instruments you use to detect tiny back-and-forth motions in the star — motions caused by the orbiting planet's gravitational tugs, which are often the only way to infer that the worlds exist at all — simply weren't sensitive enough. Since then, says Vogt, "I've been busting my gut to improve the instruments, and Paul has been busting his gut to do the observations." In all, those observations span more than 200 nights on the giant Keck I telescope in Hawaii over 11 years, supplemented by observations from the Geneva group — and that painstaking work finally confirmed 581g's existence.

None of this proves that there is water on Gliese 581g. "Those are things we just have to speculate about," says Vogt. But he goes on to point out that there's water pretty much everywhere else you look. "There's water on Earth," he says, "and on the moon, and Mars, and on Jupiter's moon Europa and Saturn's moon Enceladus, and in interstellar space. There's enough water produced in the Orion Nebula every 24 seconds to fill the Earth's oceans."

It's not hard to imagine, in other words, that Gliese 581g might have plenty of water as well. "It could have quite a good ocean," Vogt says. Certainly, it could be a sterile, nonbiological ocean. But unlike any planet found until now, there's nothing to rule out the idea that it could be teeming with life.
 
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all you have to do is look in up online for anyone's opinion:


Terraforming Mars—making the Red Planet Earth-like, so that humans could live there—is an idea that has been around since at least the early 1970s, when Carl Sagan and others first raised it seriously. In the 1990s, science-fiction writer Kim Stanley Robinson based his 1,600-page Mars trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars) on the concept.
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In addition to being a good story, Robinson's epic is well-grounded in the current science, says Darren Williams, associate professor of physics and astronomy at Penn State Erie. "There's actually been a good bit of research done into this question," Williams says.
Some of that work is by Williams' former adviser at Penn State, distinguished professor of geosciences James Kasting. In a 1991 paper published in the journal Nature, titled "Making Mars Habitable," Kasting and colleagues Christopher McKay and Owen Toon outlined the necessary steps.
First, the planet's surface temperature would have to be boosted from its current frigid -76 degrees F. No need to go as high as Earth's average of 60 degrees F, Williams says, "but you have to make it warm enough to support the presence of liquid water." At the same time, you'd need to thicken the wispy Martian atmosphere enough to hold that heat in and prevent the water from instantly evaporating. Also, you'd need an equivalent of Earth's ozone layer to shield any surface life against the lethal effects of the Sun's ultraviolet rays.
The only encouragement in this daunting "to do" list is that the tasks are interconnected. Start on one and you start them all. And, the thinking goes, it might take only a relatively small stimulus to throw a much larger process into motion.
As Williams explains, "There could be lots of carbon dioxide present on Mars, both frozen in the planet's polar ice caps and tied up in the top layer of surface rock, the regolith." If the planet's surface could be warmed just enough to begin melting that ice, that carbon dioxide, released into the atmosphere, would begin to act as a greenhouse gas. Its presence would raise the atmospheric pressure and hold in enough heat to cause sub-surface melting—releasing more carbon dioxide and setting up a positive feedback loop that would continue to play until the system eventually stabilized.
One way to trigger that initial warming, futurists have suggested, would be to deploy giant mirrors in space, redirecting sunlight toward the Martian poles. Another would be to sprinkle the ice caps with a dark-colored dust, increasing their heat-absorption. (Kind of like throwing fireplace ashes on a winter sidewalk.) A third way would be to inject chlorofluorocarbons—potent greenhouse gases—into the Martian atmosphere. Continually replenished in sufficient amount, the thinking goes, these CFCs could provide a blanket of insulation while also acting as a shield against incoming ultraviolet rays.
Kasting himself throws doubt on this scenario. "CFCs break down pretty rapidly," he notes. "On Earth, their lifetime is about 100 years, but in an atmosphere without oxygen and ozone, it would be much shorter. And they don't make a good shield, because the UV light is continually breaking them down." More basically, he adds, "I don't think there's enough carbon dioxide on Mars to effect much warming. We may be missing something, but if it's there we haven't found it."
Even if the "runaway greenhouse" theory could be realized, he says, it would take over 100 years to render Mars a viable habitat—and then only for plants. Making it fit for humans would be a far more complicated project.
Plants can get by on very little atmospheric oxygen, Kasting explains—probably not a whole lot more than Mars's current 0.15 percent—while humans need close to 20 percent. To make up that difference you'd have to rely on large-scale photosynthesis. And in order to produce net oxygen from all those plants, you'd need a way to absorb some of the carbon released when they die and decay. "On Earth," notes Kasting, "that crucial fraction of carbon gets buried in the oceans."
You'd also need to bring in a "background gas" like nitrogen, which makes up 78 percent of our air. The best hope for doing that, Kasting says, would be to engineer a collision between Mars and a large, nitrogen-rich comet—something like the impacts that are supposed to have created Earth's atmosphere. "But that would require a technology that may be a thousand years down the road."
"I think it would be almost impossible to make Mars habitable for humans," Kasting offers at last. "It would be easier to do for plants, but I don't know why we'd want to."
"I think we will have humans there some day," he adds. "But they'll be in domed cities, like in the movie Total Recall. They'll be scientific outposts."
"To me, the most interesting thing about Mars would be to go there, not to disrupt it, but to go there and look for life. There's all sorts of interesting science we could do."
James F. Kasting, Ph.D., distinguished professor of geosciences in the College of Earth and Mineral Sciences, can be reached at [email protected]. Darren M. Williams, Ph.D., associate professor of physics and astronomy at Penn State Erie, can be reached at [email protected]



But if you want my opinion, then Earth is the only naturally habitable planet in the entire universe, but could scientists create some kind of base or something on Mars? absolutely. They could make the base habitable but probably not the planet.
 
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well...they could....with a LOT of lets see......air filters that can turn other types of air into oxygen. A water source. Trees for a power source for the air filter. And.....a lot of other technological things I don't know about yet. (Yes that is the best I can think of)
 
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