Do you think tier lists are accurate?

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Is Metaknight REALLY op in brawl?
Is Jigglyuff REALLY op in melee and weak in brawl?
Is Kirby and Pikachu really op in N64 and Kirby is weak in melee?
Did samus suck in N64.
Are Little Mac, Link, Palentuna, Pit, Pikachu, Ike, Robin, Kirby, King Dedede, Diddy Kong and ZSS op in ssb4? (I didn't get most these from a tier list but from my experience playing them or online)
Jigglypuff seemed fine in brawl and Metaknight wasn't as strong that people make him out to be. Kirby and Pikachu wasn't that strong in N64.
Post your thoughts down below.
 
I think the tier list is created to rank characters from difficult to learn to more easier to learn. Kirby was always deemed an easy character and so was Mario, but they are not top tiered but mostly mid tiered or low tiered. The higher tiered characters like Meta Knight are a lot difficult to learn and adapt to his playstyle but can be OP when in the hands of a pro.
 
I think the tier list is created to rank characters from difficult to learn to more easier to learn. Kirby was always deemed an easy character and so was Mario, but they are not top tiered but mostly mid tiered or low tiered. The higher tiered characters like Meta Knight are a lot difficult to learn and adapt to his playstyle but can be OP when in the hands of a pro.

Interesting thought since most people (myself included) interpret it as strongest (S/A) to weakest (E/F). Also shouldn't the top tier characters be the easiest to learn? Jigglypuff was really hard to use and it's low tier. Metaknight isn't really hard to use. All you have to do is spam random moves and you'll get the hang of it. (At least it worked for me.)
 
Characters are ranked in a way by how easy they are to learn but they are also ranked by many complex factors simplified by tournament/competitive standings and the overall likeliness the character can win regardless of skill level, basically a trump card against characters that seem difficult. Kirby was bad in Melee because of his slow aerial mobility, bad neutral and he's just not fast in general. Math had priority in Melee which makes him top tier. Meta Knight had insane recovery and aerial options to combine with his speed to make him top tier, Olimar was top tier because of the power of camping in Brawl and Purple Pikmin killed really early. Characters do change over the games, but in general it's based on the game and how it's played.
 
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Interesting thought since most people (myself included) interpret it as strongest (S/A) to weakest (E/F). Also shouldn't the top tier characters be the easiest to learn? Jigglypuff was really hard to use and it's low tier. Metaknight isn't really hard to use. All you have to do is spam random moves and you'll get the hang of it. (At least it worked for me.)
I suppose. But I don't pay attention to the tier list at all I just pretend it is not there. I think the tier list is just frivolous and just frowns upon the weak and praises the strong.
 
I think that the tier are fairly accurate, maybe not one hundred percent because anybody can rate the characters, (I believe only once per day) so there are undoubtablely trolls or whatever trying to make the system unbalanced :p I am pretty sure that Rosalina deserves to be in first place and little mac in the low places, though.
 
Meta Knight was amazing in brawl because of his fast move and super high and amazing recovery it was just way too cool and you could just go on and on with flying him if you keep going up and down. I wouldnt say link is over powered he is more of a mid to low tier character. I would place him as A tier but that would be a lie and he is actually played around B- or maybe even C
 
They are completely accurate (after some time, maybe the Smash 4 tier list will evolve a bit but the Melee one can be trusted)... in their context, which is competition. If two random people who always play with items on decide to play against each other, the fact one chooses a high tier character and the other chooses a low tier one probably won't have a large impact.

But look at Smash competitions on Youtube. You'll see that they do things with characters that you would never have thought of alone, and that makes that character OP even if all his other moves are normal. For example, watch Falco and Fox in Melee. They always jump-cancel their shines, which can be turned into a wavedash to start a combo, or even into another shine if you are fast enough to cancel your jump (this is called multishining), which allows you to get rid of any opponent's shield since you attack in one frame (really, that's the speed of the shine) and you don't let them do anything. You probably never did that, but if you did you would have understood why they are top tier.

So yeah, basically, tier lists aren't "this character has a lot of powerful moves" but more "this character has a huge potential somewhere, if you know how to use it (and you only will if you try); but if you don't, you won't make the difference with other characters".
 
Math had priority in Melee which makes him top tier.
Math had a priority :p

To be honest , I think that the tier lists are generally accurate on the way that they scale the characters . It does depend on how easy they are to learn and how well their match ups with different characters . So I wouldn't say that the tier lists are not accurate because of some of the character's OP'ness
 
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I honestly have never looked at a teir list, and I don't think that they are really necessary. It really depends on the play style of the person. For example,Jigglypuff may be weak to many people, but others may be able to use her correctly.
 
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I honestly have never looked at a teir list, and I don't think that they are really necessary. It really depends on the play style of the person. For example,Jigglypuff may be weak to many people, but others may be able to use her correctly.
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