How to catch 5IVs Legendaries faster!! (Gen 3, 4, 5 & 6)

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Hi there!! Zukrad here!

So, as we all know, in 6th Gen, Perfect IV breeding has become much easier, thanks to the inclusion of the Friend Safari (guaranteed 3IVs) and the new Destiny Knot mechanics.

But, if you are trying to get Legendaries with good IVs, you are going to have a bad time (Megalovania starts playing)

The fact that you can't breed for Legendaries (other than Phione) makes getting Legendaries (either for OU, VGC or Ubers) a lot harder.

Thankfully there is 2 methods to get legendaries with 5IVs a little bit more efficiently:
RNG Abuse & Final Gambit + Speed Checking

1.- RNG Abuse (3, 4 & 5 gen exclusive)
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Requirements
- A Nintendo DS, DS Lite, Dsi, 3DS or New 3DS (The former 2 are much easier to do imo)
- A copy of either Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, Heart Gold, Soul Silver, Black, White, Black 2 or White 2
- A PC with the program "RNG Reporter"

I won't be too in deep in this method, since there is a lot of guides of how it works and what to do, I found doing it myself a little bit innecessary, and I want to focus on the 6th gen method.

Basically, with RNG Abuse, you predict at what time and day a certain Pokémon with certain IVs spread and nature is going to appear, change your's system day and time to match it and catch it.

RNG Abuse guide for gen 3, 4 & 5



2.- Final Gambit + Speed Checking
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Requirements
- A Nintendo 3DS or New 3DS
- A copy of either Pokémon X, Y, OR & AS
- A Pokémon with Final Gambit and a certain amount of HP
- A Pokémon with a non-damaging move and a certain amount of Speed
- Patience (like... a lot)

Something cool added to gen 6 is that all the legendaries have at least 3 IVs (as well as Baby Pokémon and certain special Pokémon, like Cosplay Pikachu).
Normally, to get good IVs in your Pokémon you just SR until you get one you like, if only you could check the IVs before catching the Pokémon... wait, you can!!

To explain myself better, I'm going to use an example:

Right now (actually, in this exact moment, while I'm writing this) I'm trying to get a Latios with good IV's

The first thing I need is the perfect stats for a Timid Latios of the level I'm trying to catch

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So the ideal stats I want are:
97/x/62/92/80/88

Before the battle begins, I want a Pokémon with a Timid nature and the ability Synchronize (if fainted, better) and put it as the lead of my party
In this case, I'm using a fainted Timid Ralts

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First, I'm using Staravia (Any Pokémon with Final Gambit works) with 96 HP
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Why 96 HP? That's because the perfect lv 30 Latios has 97 HP, giving me 2 options
- I use Final Gambit, Latios dies = Latios has 96 HP or lower (I soft reset if this happens)
- I use Final Gambit, Latios survives with 1 HP = Latios has exactly 97 HP (If this happens, I go to next step)

Now that I know that my Latios has perfect HP, let's check that speed

Now, I'm using a Breloom with Spore and exactly 87 Speed

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87 speed means that, If Latios attacks before me, has 88 or 87 speed, giving me 2 options
- Latios atacks after me = Latios has 87 or less speed (I soft reset if this happens)
- Latios attacks before me = Latios has 88 speed (what I want) or Latios has 87 speed (and we speed tied)

If the later escenario happens, then I click Spore at about 5 - 7 more, if in any of the turns I get to attack first, that means that Latios has 87 speed, and I soft reset, if not, I start to throw Ultraballs

And that's it!! Now you just check the rest of the stats and see if you got something good!!!

But what are the stats of speed and HP I need for certan legendaries?

Well, I'm making a list here, I haven't finished, but I will finsih it soon ;)


Also, if you click the Pokémon, you will go to a strategy analisis of said Pokémon
Try it out!!!


Level 70 XY
Modest 227/130/166/174/201/145
Timid 227/130/166/159/201/159


Level 70 XY
Bold 227/136/159/201/152/166
Modest 227/136/145/221/152/166
Calm 227/136/145/201/167/166
Timid 227/136/145/201/152/182


Level 70 XY
Modest 227/149/152/221/145/152
Timid 227/149/152/201/145/167


Level 70 XY
Adamant 353/281/216/309/216/296
Modest 353/230/216/378/216/296
Jolly 353/256/216/309/216/325
Timid 353/230/216/344/216/325


Level 50 ORAS
Modest 165/94/95/148/120/135
Timid 165/94/95/135/120/148


Level 50 ORAS
Adamant 190/148/105/99/95/120
Jolly 190/135/105/99/95/132


Level 50 ORAS
Bold 175/85/148/110/135/105
Modest 175/85/135/121/135/105
Calm 175/85/135/110/148/105
Timid 175/85/135/110/135/115

Level 50 ORAS
Bold 181/99/165/110/174/130
Modest 181/99/150/121/174/130
Calm 181/99/150/110/191/130
Timid 181/99/150/110/143/143

Level 50 ORAS
Adamant 181/165/110/117/174/110
Jolly 181/150/110/117/174/121


Level 50 ORAS
Adamant 155/132/220/63/120/70
Impish 155/120/242/63/120/70
Careful 155/120/220/63/132/70
Brave 155/132/220/70/120/63
Relaxed 155/120/242/70/120/63
Sassy 155/120/220/70/132/63

Trick Room
Brave 155/132/220/70/120/49
Relaxed 155/120/242/70/120/49
Sassy 155/120/220/70/132/49


Level 50 ORAS
Bold 155/63/132/120/220/70
Modest 155/63/120/132/220/70
Calm 155/63/120/120/242/70
Relaxed 155/70/132/120/220/63
Modest 155/70/120/132/220/63
Sassy 155/70/120/120/242/63

Trick Room
Relaxed 155/70/132/120/220/49
Modest 155/70/120/132/220/49
Sassy 155/70/120/120/242/49


Level 50 ORAS
Impish 155/95/187/85/170/70
Careful 155/95/170/85/187/70
Relaxed 155/95/187/95/170/63
Sassy 155/95/170/95/187/63

Trick Room
Relaxed 155/95/187/95/170/49
Sassy 155/95/170/95/187/49


Level 30 ORAS
Modest 97/55/68/88/92/80
Calm 97/55/68/80/101/80
Timid 97/55/68/80/92/88


Level 30 ORAS
Timid 97/61/62/92 / 80 / 88
Modest 97/61/62/101/ 80 / 80


Level 45 ORAS
Adamant 158/118/99/137/144/99
Bold 158/97/108/153/144/99
Modest 158/97/99/168/144/99
Calm 158/97/99/153/158/99
Timid 158/97/99/153/144/108
Brave 158/118/99/153/144/89
Relaxed 158/97/108/153/144/89
Quiet 158/97/99/168/144/89
Sassy 158/97/99/153/158/89

Trick Room
Brave 158/118/99/153/144/77
Relaxed 158/97/108/153/144/77
Quiet 158/97/99/168/144/77
Sassy 158/97/99/153/158/77


Level 45 ORAS
Adamant 158/168/144/97/99/99
Impish 158/153/158/97/99/99
Careful 158/153/144/97/108/99
Jolly 158/153/144/97/99/108
Bold 158/137/158/108/99/99
Modest 158/137/144/118/99/99
Calm 158/137/144/108/108/99
Timid 158/137/144/108/99/108
Brave 158/168/144/97/99/89
Relaxed 158/153/158/97/99/89
Quiet 158/153/144/118/99/89
Sassy 158/153/144/108/108/89
Lonely 158/168/129/97/99/99
Mild 158/153/129/108/99/99
Mild 158/153/129/97/99/99
Hasty 158/153/129/97/99/108
Naughty 158/168/144/97/89/99
Rash 158/153/144/108/89/99
Naive 158/153/144/97/89/108

Trick Room
Brave 158/168/144/97/99/77
Relaxed 158/153/158/97/99/77
Quiet 158/153/144/118/99/77
Sassy 158/153/144/108/108/77​


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KEEP IN MIND
Thanks to Slow Start, Regigigas speed varies during battle

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Being a Ghost type makes Giratina inmune to Final Gambit.
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KEEP IN MIND
Tornadus has the Prankster ability, that means he will attack first by using status moves regardless of the speed of both him and your active Pokémon

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Thundurus has the Prankster ability, that means he will attack first by using status moves regardless of the speed of both him and your active Pokémon

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And that's it!! Hopefully this guide helped you to catch those Legendaries you alaways wanted, and have a nice day Ü !!​

 
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I kinda wished this guide existed while I was tracking down legends in my AS...
But thanks, if I get a chance to reset I'll keep this in mind!!
 
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Also, guys... Do you think this thread should become a sticky thread, or is it unnecessary?

Just wondering
 
Also, guys... Do you think this thread should become a sticky thread, or is it unnecessary?

Just wondering
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It could be a sticky. I mean if that Mat Block setup thread can be one then why not this? This one actually helps someone getting into competitive get a BR legebdary they want ^-^
 
Also, guys... Do you think this thread should become a sticky thread, or is it unnecessary?

Just wondering
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Or if you want true confirmation you can always consult @Marc :p
 
Update:
-Stats added up to Ho-Oh, I will take a break (and play Bravely Second) and continue tomorrow
-Also, I added some hyperlinks to the images, now if you click a 3d model, you will be redirected to a Strategy analisis of that certain mon :p
 
Update:
-Stats added up to Ho-Oh, I will take a break (and play Bravely Second) and continue tomorrow
-Also, I added some hyperlinks to the images, now if you click a 3d model, you will be redirected to a Strategy analisis of that certain mon :p
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How about a link to the site you use to get the sprites? :p
It would make my posts much neater if they all came from one source ;-;
 
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This probably would be a good sticky for those who don't already know, but fix that Timid Lugia spread, you entered something wrong there.

Edit: Articuno, too.
 
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This probably would be a good sticky for those who don't already know, but fix that Timid Lugia spread, you entered something wrong there.

Edit: Articuno, too.
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fixed, thanks for telling me
 
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Are you gonna add how to get Defense, Special Defense, Attack, and Special Attack.
Also thank you for making this thread
 
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Are you gonna add how to get Defense, Special Defense, Attack, and Special Attack.
Also thank you for making this thread
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Not all of them, for example, Zapdos can be used (and is used) defensively and offensively, there are Bold, Modest, Calm, and and Timid sets (the same goes for example with Lugia)
But Articuno doesn't have defensive utility, so Timid and Modest are really the only natures you are going to need
The same goes for Mewtwo, Ho-Oh, etc.

I'm going to add Trick Room IVs for Trick Room setters and abusers, but tomorrow, today I'm just tired
 
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Update:
Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Kyogre & Groudon stats added
I'm taking a break, I only updated 5 mons, but oh jeez, was it painful...

GROUDON Y U HAVE SO MANY NATURES!!?

MILD!? WHAT WAS THE LAST TIME A POKÉMON HAD A MILD NATURE?!!!

Also, did you guys knew that Physical Kyogre is a thing? Yep

Anyways, I'm taking a break to lunch and play Bravely Second Demo to come back to finish Hoenn and hopefully finish Sinnoh too.

Also, I'm going to ask Marc to stickify (?) this thread once I have finished all the stats

If any of you guys see something wrong with the stats, please tell me so I can fix it (and pray that is not Groudon)

Zukrad out
 
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Well, I was advancing, I was just finishing the 4th gen... and my computer just closed the tab and I lost everything I advanced

1 hour and 40 minutes of work in 11 stats list of Pokémon (from Rayquaza to Cresselia) lost....

sigh
 
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Well, I was advancing, I was just finishing the 4th gen... and my computer just closed the tab and I lost everything I advanced

1 hour and 40 minutes of work in 11 stats list of Pokémon (from Rayquaza to Cresselia) lost....

sigh
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Oh my >.<
You should write everything down on paper then type it up. In case that ever happens again at least you'll have the info >><
 
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Oh my >.<
You should write everything down on paper then type it up. In case that ever happens again at least you'll have the info >><
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I mean, I always have the info avaliable in Showdown, the problem is organizing by nature in the spoilers

I'm finishing by Thursday I think
 
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