RMT / Team Help My beautiful, lovely unbalanced and partly un-EV trained team! (Currently)

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Hikki

Hikki

Nintendo 3DS Legend
Towns Folk
Soooo here is my Pokemon team curently: (I don't have all my Pokes yet still waiting from @Billy_Dogz but no rush :p)

Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ice Shard
- Icicle Crash
- Knock Off
- Low Kick

Gardevoir @ Gardevoirite
Ability: Trace
EV: ? ? ? ? ? ?
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Psyshock
- Focus Blast
- Hyper Voice

Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Protect
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed
- Stealth Rock

Gothitelle @ Choice Specs
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 164 HP / 252 SpA / 88 Spe
Modest Nature
- Psyshock
- Trick
- Energy Ball
- Thunderbolt

Staraptor @ (Don't know what item yet not choice anything)
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Serious Nature
- Brave Bird
- Double-Edge
- Close Combat
- U-turn
BTW Staraptor is bad ability/nature/close comabt instead of FInal Gambit becuase I received it from another person. Why is it in BL People should use more often)

Dragalge @ Choice Specs
Ability: Adaptability
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Hp/ 252 Sp.Atk/ 4 Sp Def.
Nature: Modest
-Dragon Pulse (For now, will get taught Draco Meteor when I have time)
-Icy Wind
-Sludge Wave
-Scald
Soooo how is it?
 
First off I'd probably replace Weavile with Bisharp as it is not weak to Stealth Rocks and because of its ability Defiant deters the opponent from using Defog allowing you a greater chance of keeping up your Stealth Rocks, with Gardevoir you'll want a EV spread of 24 Def / 232 SpA / 252 Spe which ensures you don't get 2HKO'd by a Psyshock from Latios while maximizing your offensive capabilities. With Ferrothorn, since you're running both Leech Seed and Protect, you probably want to run Leftovers over Rocky Helmet to allow Ferro to recover as much Hp as possible, since Gothitelle has such great synergy with Bisharp who can Pursuit trap threats to Gothitelle like Gengar, and the Lati twins if possible you might want to try to a hold of a HP Fire Gothitelle so you can trap switch ins to Bisharp like Scizor. Regarding Staraptor, sorry but you'll need to use a Choice Band, you'll also want to change its ability to Reckless and give it an Adamant nature so you'll have a better chance to 2HKO Rotom Wash and lastly with Dragalge change its spread to 200 HP / 252 SpA / 56 Spe so it can outspeed Azumarill and not get OHKO'd by a CB Play Rough, I'd probably replace Icy Wind with Focus Blast so you can check Heatran, as Scald doesn't 2HKO the Sp.D variant and it also doesn't OHKO the Scarf variant which is a rather big threat to your team.
 
First off I'd probably replace Weavile with Bisharp as it is not weak to Stealth Rocks and because of its ability Defiant deters the opponent from using Defog allowing you a greater chance of keeping up your Stealth Rocks, with Gardevoir you'll want a EV spread of 24 Def / 232 SpA / 252 Spe which ensures you don't get 2HKO'd by a Psyshock from Latios while maximizing your offensive capabilities. With Ferrothorn, since you're running both Leech Seed and Protect, you probably want to run Leftovers over Rocky Helmet to allow Ferro to recover as much Hp as possible, since Gothitelle has such great synergy with Bisharp who can Pursuit trap threats to Gothitelle like Gengar, and the Lati twins if possible you might want to try to a hold of a HP Fire Gothitelle so you can trap switch ins to Bisharp like Scizor. Regarding Staraptor, sorry but you'll need to use a Choice Band, you'll also want to change its ability to Reckless and give it an Adamant nature so you'll have a better chance to 2HKO Rotom Wash and lastly with Dragalge change its spread to 200 HP / 252 SpA / 56 Spe so it can outspeed Azumarill and not get OHKO'd by a CB Play Rough, I'd probably replace Icy Wind with Focus Blast so you can check Heatran, as Scald doesn't 2HKO the Sp.D variant and it also doesn't OHKO the Scarf variant which is a rather big threat to your team.
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Thanks! Btw how would you rate my team out of 10? Kam most likely going to replace Gothitelle with rapid spin Starmie and remove Gardevoir and put in M-Scizor instead of Dragalge.
You can't change to hidden ability with ability capsule :( I will try to edit my team and put some major changes!
 
I would say that it is a very nice team that you have there . Maybe just tweak it up a little and I am not sure if having 2 psychic types are of a very good idea so maybe I guess change the Gothitelle to something else . It may depend on who you are battling . I would rate you team a 9/10 . you just need to change it up a few little times then it will be great :D It's very good so far :)
 
If you're replacing Gothitelle with Starmie, make sure its a Reflect Type variant so you can handle Pursuit trappers like Bisharp and ScarfTar, I've just realized your team has not much Mega Metagross besides Bisharp which can't even OHKO so you might want to consider replacing Staraptor with Talonflame to give yourself a check to it and since you're interested in replacing Dragalge, I'd replace it with a Serperior while acts as a check to Rotom Wash and Azumarill also forms a FWG core with Starmie and Talonflame. After these changes, I'd probably rate it a 7/10.
 
I would say that it is a very nice team that you have there . Maybe just tweak it up a little and I am not sure if having 2 psychic types are of a very good idea so maybe I guess change the Gothitelle to something else . It may depend on who you are battling . I would rate you team a 9/10 . you just need to change it up a few little times then it will be great :D It's very good so far :)
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Lol you even made a theme with cupcakes XD it should be a worldwide saying now. So back on topic.I am only using Gothitelle currently because it is my only other EV trained Pokemon currently so ikr so lazy but I am getting some don't worry :D To @Lios I don't like my chances with a reflect type Starmie because I usually lose when setting up stat boosts as a sweeper :p
 
Lol you even made a theme with cupcakes XD it should be a worldwide saying now. So back on topic.I am only using Gothitelle currently because it is my only other EV trained Pokemon currently so ikr so lazy but I am getting some don't worry :D To @Lios I don't like my chances with a reflect type Starmie because I usually lose when setting up stat boosts as a sweeper :p
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Reflect Type changes the typing of your Pokemon to the typing of the opponent's Pokemon, are you confusing it with Cosmic Power or something?
 
I know but doesn't it waste one turn or something? Like Calm Mind and Bulk Up waste one turn to use. I am still running Calm Mind though on Gardevoir but never get a chance to use it ;_; I don't think that reflect type is an ability though because Starmie's only ability is Illminate and Aclytic. I will change a move to that if you would like but I don't think my Starmie will survive that.
 
Reflect Type is a move, yes it wastes a turn, but it helps you not be Pursuit trapped by Tyranitar, Bisharp and Scizor and allows you to beat Ferrothorn 1v1

252 Atk Tyranitar Pursuit vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Starmie: 152-182 (47 - 56.3%) -- 81.3% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery

Here's a Pursuit from a Tyranitar before you use Reflect Type

252 Atk Tyranitar Pursuit vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Starmie: 38-45 (11.7 - 13.9%)

Here's a Pursuit from a Tyranitar after you use Reflect Type, you can then go for a Recover and beat ScarfTar 1v1
 
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Reflect Type is a move, yes it wastes a turn, but it helps you not be Pursuit trapped by Tyranitar, Bisharp and Scizor and allows you to beat Ferrothorn 1v1

252 Atk Tyranitar Pursuit vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Starmie: 152-182 (47 - 56.3%) -- 81.3% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery

Here's a Pursuit from a Tyranitar before you use Reflect Type

252 Atk Tyranitar Pursuit vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Starmie: 38-45 (11.7 - 13.9%)

Here's a Pursuit from a Tyranitar after you use Reflect Type, you can then go for a Recover and beat ScarfTar 1v1
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That is a pretty good Starmie but I am using my Starmie as a special sweeper with choice scarf so I can't use reflect type :( I could change but then Billy would have to start all over with my order. BTW are damage calculators reliable? Like haven't used one yet but apparently smogon's damage calculator is the basics of Pokemon Showdown. Also, how does Pokemon Showdown work? It is literally amazing!!!
 
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Choice Scarf Starmie is horrible in OU, Life Orb or Leftovers are better and yes, most damage calculators are reliable, you should probably always have one open when battling. How does Pokemon Showdown work? Its a web based Pokemon battle simulator, if you literally need to know everything about Pokemon Showdown, well here you go

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-beginners-guide-to-pokémon-showdown.3496279/
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Wow thats a great link thanks! :p Why is choice scarf Starmie so bad?I tried using it and it on Showdown and it pretty much worked for me.Life Orb was slightly worse but still had it going. Also: Should I add Vivliion to this team? I think I already have to many sweepers but whatever.
Vivillon @ Focus Sash
Ability: Compound Eyes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sleep Powder
- Quiver Dance
- Hurricane
- Bug Buzz
 
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Starmie just isn't powerful enough with a Scarf, it's kind of outclassed by Latios/Keldeo in that regard, Starmie really only has two options, Analytic Life Orb or a Bulky Reflect Type. Vivillon really isn't OU viable, it's pretty much outclassed by Volcarona as a Quiver Dance sweeper, you don't really need another set up sweeper anyway, especially when it will only make you more weak to Talonflame.
 
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