The World Ends With Us.

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What is the most plausible cause of human extinction


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So i was thinking about how the world would actually end or if we will find some way to survive..

Any way we all know that the end of the earth is inevitable its only a matter of time, this experiment is to see what everyone thinks in going to happen,how,when and what would be the cause.

you can write a story or just a general explanation maybe even adding scientific reasoning whatever you chose to do,to create your scenario of the world ending.
 
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Isn't war part of human stupidity ? :p

Anyway, I think it will be human stupidity because some humans really don't have their priorities right. Some of them think about their personal interest before the global one (like keep making money out of petrol instead of spending to look for alternatives) or don't even have priorities and just do stupid stuff (the education system in France is basically "oh, people can't get that exam ? well, lower the expectations and they'll get it", and "oh, smart people can have additional courses so they don't get bored ? not a good idea, to have more equality, we'll put everyone in the same class and maybe we'll get only idiots at the end, but equal idiots").
 
Isn't war part of human stupidity ? :p

Anyway, I think it will be human stupidity because some humans really don't have their priorities right. Some of them think about their personal interest before the global one (like keep making money out of petrol instead of spending to look for alternatives) or don't even have priorities and just do stupid stuff (the education system in France is basically "oh, people can't get that exam ? well, lower the expectations and they'll get it", and "oh, smart people can have additional courses so they don't get bored ? not a good idea, to have more equality, we'll put everyone in the same class and maybe we'll get only idiots at the end, but equal idiots").
Technically everything is human stupidity we cause most of the natural disasters too xD
 
Technically everything is human stupidity we cause most of the natural disasters too xD
Only 2 things are infinite. The universe and human stupidity.
 
Isn't war part of human stupidity ? :p

Anyway, I think it will be human stupidity because some humans really don't have their priorities right. Some of them think about their personal interest before the global one (like keep making money out of petrol instead of spending to look for alternatives) or don't even have priorities and just do stupid stuff (the education system in France is basically "oh, people can't get that exam ? well, lower the expectations and they'll get it", and "oh, smart people can have additional courses so they don't get bored ? not a good idea, to have more equality, we'll put everyone in the same class and maybe we'll get only idiots at the end, but equal idiots").
I'm not sure it's always stupidity. Sometimes it's necessary. Also, I'm gonna sound more evil than I am here, but war can cause good things. Can bring economies out of recession, being down tyrants and, here's the evil one, control the population, etc.
 
I'm not sure it's always stupidity. Sometimes it's necessary. Also, I'm gonna sound more evil than I am here, but war can cause good things. Can bring economies out of recession, being down tyrants and, here's the evil one, control the population, etc.


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the fact that we have to justify wars and also realize that they do actually have "good" points that solve some of the problems of human society it itself shows that humanity had failed long ago.
 
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Only 2 things are infinite. The universe and human stupidity.
You forgot the best part of it, which is "but I am not sure about the universe" or something :p

I'm not sure it's always stupidity. Sometimes it's necessary. Also, I'm gonna sound more evil than I am here, but war can cause good things. Can bring economies out of recession, being down tyrants and, here's the evil one, control the population, etc.
Oh yeah, once you have reasons to do war, it might be a good thing, but those reasons are most of the time due to human stupidity, that's why in my opinion, if there's a war, there was always human stupidity somewhere ;)
 
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the fact that we have to justify wars and also realize that they do actually have "good" points that solve some of the problems of human society it itself shows that humanity had failed long ago.
Yeah. Without human stupidity, those problems wouldn't need solving, but still.
Oh yeah, once you have reasons to do war, it might be a good thing, but those reasons are most of the time due to human stupidity, that's why in my opinion, if there's a war, there was always human stupidity somewhere ;)
I was more saying it's a bad thing with some good things that happen because of it. And yeah, but maybe not directly involved. Like Akame said, human stupidity is infinite lol
 
Wth of course it's not human stupidity otherwise why would a human race exist to begin with? Maybe Nature and War deserve to be in the same section on the poll because those are almost one in the same and I can't imagine it any other way. Coincidence or not I think war is the definitive answer because people like to play dumb to begin with however that does not belong under the faction of "human stupidity" because clearly there's a good reason why people argue with each other and it's a test of human durability and how hard they are willing to work until their skin/epidermis gets replaced with cyborgs and then a computervirus will kill all humanity and the villain behind it all will have no possible way to procreate humans.
 
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Wth of course it's not human stupidity otherwise why would a human race exist to begin with? Maybe Nature and War deserve to be in the same section on the poll because those are almost one in the same and I can't imagine it any other way. Coincidence or not I think war is the definitive answer because people like to play dumb to begin with however that does not belong under the faction of "human stupidity" because clearly there's a good reason why people argue with each other and it's a test of human durability and how hard they are willing to work until their skin/epidermis gets replaced with cyborgs and then a computervirus will kill all humanity and the villain behind it all will have no possible way to procreate humans.
Sir i have a feeling you are giving humans way too much credit........human race can barely stand on its two feet as is the push of a single button will end it all...

though one thing i agree with there probably isnt even a need for war or nature on the poll human stupidity wins no contest xD
 
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Sir i have a feeling you are giving humans way too much credit........human race can barely stand on its two feet as is the push of a single button will end it all...

though one thing i agree with there probably isnt even a need for war or nature on the poll human stupidity wins no contest xD
I have to disagree that we can barely stand on our feet... We have made it this far and gotten very advanced and while I still think we're a stupid race, you've gotta give it credit for that.
 
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I have to disagree that we can barely stand on our feet... We have made it this far and gotten very advanced and while I still think we're a stupid race, you've gotta give it credit for that.
yeah maybe i was a little too harsh on us humans
we made video games so.....yeah that makes up for about 5% of the stupidity.
i don't hate humans or think that everyone of us is dumb all of us are very civil and intelligent creatures though when it comes down to it we just don't do what we need to
 
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First of all, war is a product of human stupidity, but is also a necessity. However, humans cannot become extinct because of wars, as, nowadays, wars aren't fought directly by humans like it was in the past. Instead, more sophisticated methods are being created to minimize the casualties and use those that are saved in other situations & operations.
Secondly, as we all know, everything in the cosmos has a beginning and of course an end (with exception of darkness) and just like that, humans also have an expiration day and so does earth & our universe. Be it a few hundred million or billion years when our sun swallows most of the planets close to us or even sooner from a huge meteorite or something of the sorts, the end is inevitable. The only question that remains is whether humans will destroy themselves before that happens.
Humans are genuinely stupid, no matter how much we refuse to accept it. Even those considered geniuses are actually stupid. Acting like or believing they know everything (this is not the actual meaning of genius by the way), when in all reality the know nothing. Still, unlike the aforementioned people, the rest of humanity is even more stupid because they yearn for advancements in knowledge, medicine, technology, etc. without realizing that all of these come at a cost, namely resources. For instance, an advancement in technology (the most common type) draws a HUGE amount of resources, which, while cheap and abundant, will inevitably sometime run out. When the time comes that many resources will be unavailable anymore, humanity will not advance, will not even halt, instead, it will regress to an far earlier state, but with the dependency on all the advancement, it will not be able to survive.
Moving on past advances in stuff, but still about human stupidity, we have the average human being polluting and destroying the environment, wasting water, but also caring about only oneself, killing others and so on. This is the biggest problem there is, as well as the biggest threat to our survival until the "true" end. More of this at another time (I got tired writing this).
To sum up, the answer to the question is this: There is currently a race going on, between the natural order of thing and stupidity of humans. In my opinion, we will win the race and also I get the feeling that a higher power is toying with us for it's amusement. I hope I'm wrong in this.
 
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The only problem with a hypothesis this big is innovation helps half way. I imagine something more like the way Star Trek The Next Generation predicts what the future will be like because they take things extra seriously and add little details to demonstrate an adequate amount of emotion for the typical viewer to follow and understand. I only saw two videos but they were clearly on the verge of distinction but because the story states they live past an obstacle does not mean they won't be able to succeed to the ends of time in space. Because they predicted cell phones (well the series did) and now everyone has one. It only takes a thought and perseverance to help your goals and the main idea is our innovation will be enough for us to buy us enough time to help us succeed as a race. Doom or not the human touch is everywhere and I think that helps rather than harms considering how long religion has lasted and nothing too serious like a total dictatorship has happened to control an entire race. Drugs can't hold a crowd because that crowd would die out (you have to see the first episode ^^^^^ to know what I am thinking about).

It's all about work and thought to get things done, not just waiting for it to happen and many people already understand that and I think those people will go farther. If they never stop that is... (or end up like Wall-E worst case scenario)
 
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Nietzsche once said that though our civilization has been developing through times, our humanity stays the same.
 
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Nietzsche once said that though our civilization has been developing through times, our humanity stays the same.
*claps* well this is so true humans have always been the same even if they change how they act its incredibly difficult to change how you think.
 
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So starting with a depressing fact:
The higher educated people are getting less and less kids while those without any schooling are getting more and more. Of course there is a whole sociological explanation for that, but the bottomline is that humanity is getting more and more stupid. Plus, thanks to our social structures, natural selection isn't functioning properly any more.

I also believe that almost all problems we have are due to overpopulation. Whether it is climate change, drinkable water shortage or medicine resistant disease, (way) less humans and the problem is solved. But people keep breeding like rabbits in spring. So My first choice is human stupidity, obviously.

Still 'nature' isn't an unlikely factor either. If nature does the big wipe-out my bets are on either a solar flame or a supervolcano. Supervolcanoes are pretty self-explanatory and Yellow Stone has been building up pressure for a while. Solar flames are more or less particle rays the sun emits. When they hit the atmosphere you see something that looks like the Northern Lights, except it doesn't have to be in a polar region. Those solar flames are happening more and more frequently. The previous big one that hit earth is in the previous century. Now what is the problem with those colourful particle rays? They destroy electric equipment. The last big one on record burned down hundreds of telegraphs lines in mere seconds. Back then it wasn't a real problem. But now, in our digital society where all lives depend on communication over the globe? Expect pure chaos.
 
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So starting with a depressing fact:
The higher educated people are getting less and less kids while those without any schooling are getting more and more. Of course there is a whole sociological explanation for that, but the bottomline is that humanity is getting more and more stupid. Plus, thanks to our social structures, natural selection isn't functioning properly any more.

I also believe that almost all problems we have are due to overpopulation. Whether it is climate change, drinkable water shortage or medicine resistant disease, (way) less humans and the problem is solved. But people keep breeding like rabbits in spring. So My first choice is human stupidity, obviously.

Still 'nature' isn't an unlikely factor either. If nature does the big wipe-out my bets are on either a solar flame or a supervolcano. Supervolcanoes are pretty self-explanatory and Yellow Stone has been building up pressure for a while. Solar flames are more or less particle rays the sun emits. When they hit the atmosphere you see something that looks like the Northern Lights, except it doesn't have to be in a polar region. Those solar flames are happening more and more frequently. The previous big one that hit earth is in the previous century. Now what is the problem with those colourful particle rays? They destroy electric equipment. The last big one on record burned down hundreds of telegraphs lines in mere seconds. Back then it wasn't a real problem. But now, in our digital society where all lives depend on communication over the globe? Expect pure chaos.

Unfortunately, while correct for the most part, you are not thinking things thoroughly enough so allow me to enlighten you. First off, you are right that higher educated people are constantly less and less likely to have kids and/or families (eg: Japanese Women) and the less educated people may even hold having a family as their goal in life. With the progression of our world many people have come to believe that family is just a burden, not a bliss, thus avoiding starting one. THAT is plain stupidity at it's finest. Now, what you are wrong about in your first point is that natural selection doesn't function as it should anymore. Natural selection means this, the environment and the world around us change, if you can adjust, you will survive, if not you are dead meat.
Moving on, true, overpopulation DOES cause a lot of problems, if not most, so I totally agree with you on that. Stupid people just keep breeding and multiplying their numbers, then they intentionally or unintentionally ruin the world. However, what you said, that fewer people would mean less problems, while mostly true, it depends on WHO the people left are. Are they stupid or not? Imagine a world where only the stupid ones have survived! Try to imagine humanity's future then!
Finally, nature will destroy humanity for sure, the question that stands is: will humanity go extinct by themselves or not? Also, the solar flames you mentioned no longer affect electronic devices as much as they did, nowadays, they simply mess up with the microprocessor clocks (too much to explain), meaning that most simple devices won't be affected at all and those that will, may not malfunction too much or may just explode (or so many different types of malfunction, too many to list).
 
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Unfortunately, while correct for the most part, you are not thinking things thoroughly enough so allow me to enlighten you. First off, you are right that higher educated people are constantly less and less likely to have kids and/or families (eg: Japanese Women) and the less educated people may even hold having a family as their goal in life. With the progression of our world many people have come to believe that family is just a burden, not a bliss, thus avoiding starting one. THAT is plain stupidity at it's finest. Now, what you are wrong about in your first point is that natural selection doesn't function as it should anymore. Natural selection means this, the environment and the world around us change, if you can adjust, you will survive, if not you are dead meat.
Moving on, true, overpopulation DOES cause a lot of problems, if not most, so I totally agree with you on that. Stupid people just keep breeding and multiplying their numbers, then they intentionally or unintentionally ruin the world. However, what you said, that fewer people would mean less problems, while mostly true, it depends on WHO the people left are. Are they stupid or not? Imagine a world where only the stupid ones have survived! Try to imagine humanity's future then!
Finally, nature will destroy humanity for sure, the question that stands is: will humanity go extinct by themselves or not? Also, the solar flames you mentioned no longer affect electronic devices as much as they did, nowadays, they simply mess up with the microprocessor clocks (too much to explain), meaning that most simple devices won't be affected at all and those that will, may not malfunction too much or may just explode (or so many different types of malfunction, too many to list).
Thanks! But "will just explode" that still sounds like a problem.
I wrote a pretty sort piece without any nuance because I didn't really feel like making it a whole essay on doom. :p Another good scenario would be running out of our carbon budget (Only 17 years to go, IF we keep going like this. It's probably even shorter)
The point is that a big solar flame has the power to destroy (whether small time or big time) communication devices like phones. Or telephone lines. Meaning that suddenly a part of the world can't communicate properly anymore. As long as it's a small or not too densely populated area that isn't a problem. But I think the power outage 2 years ago(though that was thanks t a storm) in New York City (and that was just a few neighbourhoods) proves that when our electricity is cut of we are in serious trouble. It was just two weeks then and chaos ruled even though it was only for such a small period of time. (and why can't I find that ted talk I saw about it? Ugh. )
 
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That is proof of the stupidity of people, they panic over something insignificant and they don't realize that panicking will NOT solve the problem, it will just make matters worse. So, just to end this topic, humans will mostly go extinct out of their own stupidity and those that will survive, if any, will go extinct by the nature's unforgiving hand (should be fairly mad at us already).
 
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