Counter that threat!!

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  • #321
Serperior @ life orb
Timid
Contrary
252 spa & spe, 4 spd
Leaf storm
Dragon pulse
Hidden power water
Giga drain
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Talonflame
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Acrobatics
- Roost
- Swords Dance
- Will-O-Wisp

Pweddy birdie​
 
  • #322
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Talonflame
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Acrobatics
- Roost
- Swords Dance
- Will-O-Wisp

Pweddy birdie​
Not a very solid counter. Acrobatics only has a 62% chance to OHKO, while a +2 hp water will OHKO it. You'll probably be switching into a leaf storm, or leaf storm took out what was in before it. But t flame is enough to scare serpy out, and it gets replaced with:
Aggron @ leftovers
Impish
Sturdy
252 hp, 16 def, 248 spd
Stealth rock
Heavy slam
Avelance
Fire punch
 
  • #323
Not a very solid counter. Acrobatics only has a 62% chance to OHKO, while a +2 hp water will OHKO it. You'll probably be switching into a leaf storm, or leaf storm took out what was in before it. But t flame is enough to scare serpy out, and it gets replaced with:
Aggron @ leftovers
Impish
Sturdy
252 hp, 16 def, 248 spd
Stealth rock
Heavy slam
Avelance
Fire punch
Tbh, I'm familiar enough with that build that I'd have expected to survive and boosted first turn, but you're right, switching into Leaf Storm could be problematic.
 
  • #324
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Avalugg @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Careful Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Avalanche
- Earthquake​
 
  • #325
Lucario @ life orb
Modest
Inner focus
252 spa & spe, 4 def
Aura sphere
Dragon pulse
Flash cannon
Shadow ball
 
  • #326
Lucario @ life orb
Modest
Inner focus
252 spa & spe, 4 def
Aura sphere
Dragon pulse
Flash cannon
Shadow ball
Not a counter to that Avalugg, it can't one-shot, gets destroyed by EQ and Weakness Policy.
 
  • #327
252+ SpA Life Orb Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 248 HP / 8+ SpD Avalugg: 564-665 (143.5 - 169.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 8+ SpD Avalugg: 564-665 (143.5 - 169.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Did you use the ev spread you wanted?
 
  • #328
252+ SpA Life Orb Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 248 HP / 8+ SpD Avalugg: 564-665 (143.5 - 169.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Lucario Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 8+ SpD Avalugg: 564-665 (143.5 - 169.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Did you use the ev spread you wanted?
Why don't you take a good look at that Avalugg, and stop being irrelevant. #icantrashtalktoo.
 
  • #329
I forgot sturdy! Showdown's damage calculator doesn't have it as an avalible ability for some reason. Lucario still wins it if I change the item to air balloon.
 
  • #330
I forgot sturdy! Showdown's damage calculator doesn't have it as an avalible ability for some reason. Lucario still wins it if I change the item to air balloon.

There we go, and no insult intended btw.
Lucario @ air balloon
Modest
Inner focus
252 spa & spe, 4 def
Aura sphere
Dragon pulse
Flash cannon
Shadow ball
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Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
- Soft-Boiled
- Heal Bell
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss​
 
  • #331
Here's a fun little set:
Loppunny @ loppunnite
Adamant
Scrappy
252 atk & spe, 4 def
Fake out
Last resort

Last resort is active when all other moves would fail, as long as the failure isn't caused by an immunity.
 
  • #332
Here's a fun little set:
Loppunny @ loppunnite
Adamant
Scrappy
252 atk & spe, 4 def
Fake out
Last resort

Last resort is active when all other moves would fail, as long as the failure isn't caused by an immunity.
That's interesting for pressure but is hard stopped by Intimidate.
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Landorus-Therian @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 8 SpD / 8 Spe
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Stone Edge
- Stealth Rock​
 
  • #333
So you bring out something that counters almost everything in ou, and the one legendary that gives me problems.
Greninja @ life orb
Modest
Protean
252 spa & spe, 4 def
Scald
Extrasensory
Ice beam
Gunk shot
 
  • #334
So you bring out something that counters almost everything in ou, and the one legendary that gives me problems.
Greninja @ life orb
Modest
Protean
252 spa & spe, 4 def
Scald
Extrasensory
Ice beam
Gunk shot
Actually, if you look up usage stats for Lando-T, he's the most used mon across many rulesets in many different regions, so if there's anything you should know to counter, it's him.
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Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Power Whip​
 
  • #335
That ferrothorn has a fatal flaw.
Goodra @ assault vest
Bold
Sap aipper
252 def, 212 hp, 44 spa
Dragon pulse
Fire blast
Sludge bomb
Muddy water
 
  • #336
That ferrothorn has a fatal flaw.
Goodra @ assault vest
Bold
Sap aipper
252 def, 212 hp, 44 spa
Dragon pulse
Fire blast
Sludge bomb
Muddy water
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Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Roar
- Toxic
- Ice Beam​
 
  • #337
Flygon @ assault vest
Jolly
Levitate
252 atk & spe, 4 spd
U turn
Stone edge/ rock slide
Earthquake
Dragon claw

Think we're the only ones doing this anymore.
 
  • #338
Think we're the only ones doing this anymore.
Next week, when i get on a computer, i might join in ;P
 
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  • #339
Surprise veteran player on the field!
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'Fluffball' Altaria-M @Altarianite
Pixelate
Impish Nature
248 HP, 136 Def, 96 Sp. Def, 28 Spe
-Earthquake
-Roost
-Heal Bell
-Return

 
  • #340
Surprise veteran player on the field!
altaria-mega.png

'Fluffball' Altaria-M @Altarianite
Pixelate
Impish Nature
248 HP, 136 Def, 96 Sp. Def, 28 Spe
-Earthquake
-Roost
-Heal Bell
-Return

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Crobat @ Black Sludge
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 248 HP / 48 Def / 212 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Taunt
- Toxic
- Roost​
 
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