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MysticSniper
Spirit of a Dragon
Towns Folk
Been meaning to breed one of those.I forgot this exists.
Lumineon @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 248 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Protect
- Scald
- U-turn
- Toxic
Jolteon @ air balloon
Timid
Volt absorb
252 spa & spe, 4 spd
Volt switch
Hidden power water
Thunderbolt
Shadow ball
Zappity zap zap.
Zukrad
Just spam F-Air in the neutral and hope it works.
Towns Folk
So, I just discovered that... there is a "Dinkleberg" emblem... and I want it
Only those who have created a discussion topic in a discussion forum with over 1,000 replies can receive this emblem. Others call the wielders of this emblem "Dinkleberg!!!" and raise their fist in the air while shaking it.
344 so far, only 2/3 left!! (btw, in the main post, I changed the rules to avoid the likes of "Focus Sash Pokémon is a counter" and stuff like that)
Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Slack Off
- Psyshock
- Calm Mind
Earthquake barely 5HKOes, while Scald 3HKOes, has a chance to burn and Slowbro can use Slack Off to heal the damage
Only those who have created a discussion topic in a discussion forum with over 1,000 replies can receive this emblem. Others call the wielders of this emblem "Dinkleberg!!!" and raise their fist in the air while shaking it.
344 so far, only 2/3 left!! (btw, in the main post, I changed the rules to avoid the likes of "Focus Sash Pokémon is a counter" and stuff like that)
Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Slack Off
- Psyshock
- Calm Mind
Earthquake barely 5HKOes, while Scald 3HKOes, has a chance to burn and Slowbro can use Slack Off to heal the damage
Samuel_1802
Nintendo Mobile Game Junkie
Towns Folk
So, I just discovered that... there is a "Dinkleberg" emblem... and I want it
Only those who have created a discussion topic in a discussion forum with over 1,000 replies can receive this emblem. Others call the wielders of this emblem "Dinkleberg!!!" and raise their fist in the air while shaking it.
344 so far, only 2/3 left!! (btw, in the main post, I changed the rules to avoid the likes of "Focus Sash Pokémon is a counter" and stuff like that)
Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Slack Off
- Psyshock
- Calm Mind
Earthquake barely 5HKOes, while Scald 3HKOes, has a chance to burn and Slowbro can use Slack Off to heal the damage
Cacturne @ Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Atk
Naive Nature
- Energy Ball
- Focus Blast
- Sucker Punch
- Nasty Plot
Um... well... literally can't touch this
Zukrad
Just spam F-Air in the neutral and hope it works.
Towns Folk
Cacturne @ Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Atk
Naive Nature
- Energy Ball
- Focus Blast
- Sucker Punch
- Nasty Plot
Um... well... literally can't touch this
Azumarill @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Encore
- Perish Song
- Scald
- Protect
Inmunity + persih song
Samuel_1802
Nintendo Mobile Game Junkie
Towns Folk
Azumarill @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Encore
- Perish Song
- Scald
- Protect
Inmunity + persih song
Never used Abomasnow before so I dunno how effective this set is overall, but I sure know it can deal with that Azumarill
EDIT: Actually, it'll have trouble doing so, I forgot Worry Seed is also affected by Sap Sipper! One that will work better is:
Abomasnow @ Leftovers
Ability: Soundproof
EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Quiet Nature
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Ice Shard
Gary Johnson
Dedicated to Poyoism
Towns Folk
Abomasnow @ Life Orb
Ability: Soundproof
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 4 Atk
Quiet Nature
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam
- Worry Seed
- Ice Shard
Never used Abomasnow before so I dunno how effective this set is overall, but I sure know it can deal with that Azumarill
EDIT: Actually, it'll have trouble doing so, I forgot Worry Seed is also affected by Sap Sipper! One that will work better is:
Abomasnow @ Leftovers
Ability: Soundproof
EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Quiet Nature
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Ice Shard
Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt
- Toxic
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt
- Toxic
Mr. Kream
Will Mod Your Soul
Forum Moderator
That Abomasnow wouldn't have been a solid counter to that Azu because of encore. This would have been a more appropriate counter:
Azelf @ Luminous Moss
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature (+Spe, -SpD)
- Thunderbolt / Psychic
- Explosion
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
Azelf @ Luminous Moss
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature (+Spe, -SpD)
- Thunderbolt / Psychic
- Explosion
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
Flygon @ Choice Band
Ability: Levitate
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Sp.Def
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Stone Edge
- U-Turn
Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Knock Off
- Protect
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MysticSniper
Spirit of a Dragon
Towns Folk
Eelectross @ assault vest
Modest
Levitate
252 spa / 252 spe / 4 def
Thunderbolt
Giga drain
Flamethrower
Volt switch
Might knock off the vest, but ferro won't survive 2 flamethrowers.
Btw, when you say criticals never happen, does that apply when critical rate up is +3. At +3 critical rate up, the critical hit rate is 100%, so criticals will happen unless target is immune to them through shell armor, battle armor, or lucky chant.
Modest
Levitate
252 spa / 252 spe / 4 def
Thunderbolt
Giga drain
Flamethrower
Volt switch
Might knock off the vest, but ferro won't survive 2 flamethrowers.
Btw, when you say criticals never happen, does that apply when critical rate up is +3. At +3 critical rate up, the critical hit rate is 100%, so criticals will happen unless target is immune to them through shell armor, battle armor, or lucky chant.
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Zukrad
Just spam F-Air in the neutral and hope it works.
Towns Folk
I was thinking of that, and I thought that I could add the rule "If a Pokémon has a 50% or more chance to get a critical hit, it will get it" or something like that, but, I couold get a little bit too complicated and/or abusable, so I decided to make them impossible
Anyways:
Goodra @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Dragon Tail
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Dragon Tail
Resist all 4 moves, and I'm pretty sure it either 2HKOes or 3HKOes
Samuel_1802
Nintendo Mobile Game Junkie
Towns Folk
I was thinking of that, and I thought that I could add the rule "If a Pokémon has a 50% or more chance to get a critical hit, it will get it" or something like that, but, I couold get a little bit too complicated and/or abusable, so I decided to make them impossible
Anyways:
Goodra @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Dragon Tail
Resist all 4 moves, and I'm pretty sure it either 2HKOes or 3HKOes
Warein @ Assault Vest
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Avalanche
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
Dragon Pulse is a 3-4HKO (87.5% for 4HKO) and Avalanche OHKO's 100% of the time.
MysticSniper
Spirit of a Dragon
Towns Folk
Think the only way to get over 50% is to get +3 critical rate. I could be wrong, but I think the rates are:I was thinking of that, and I thought that I could add the rule "If a Pokémon has a 50% or more chance to get a critical hit, it will get it" or something like that, but, I couold get a little bit too complicated and/or abusable, so I decided to make them impossible
Anyways:
Goodra @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Dragon Tail
Resist all 4 moves, and I'm pretty sure it either 2HKOes or 3HKOes
Base: 5%
+1: 12.5
+2: 25
+3: 100
As for that walrein:
Mega gallade
Adament
Inner focus
252 atk / 252 spe / 4 def
Drain punch
Shadow sneak
Psycho cut
Swords dance
Takes 3 hits for walrein to take it down. Gallade outspeeds it, and after swords dance, drain punch is a OHKO. Gallade can switch in on any attack, set up, and destroy walrein before it can deal that last hit.
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Samuel_1802
Nintendo Mobile Game Junkie
Towns Folk
It's:
Base: 6.75%
+1: 12.5%
+2: 50%
+3: 100%
Regardless, +3 is still 100%. I guess you should take crits only for moves that have a 100% chance to crit (Storm Throw and Frost Breath), or sets that have a 100% chance to crit (Super Luck + Scope Lens/Razor Claw + increased crit chance move), though the boost is the same as being Band/Specs so... besides being able to switch moves, there's not much of a difference for this game.
Anyways...
Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp.Def
Impish Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp
- Psych Up
- Pain Split
Shadow Sneak from Gallade is a possible 5HKO when burned and at +6 Attack (~9HKO at +0). Shadow Sneak from Spiritomb is a 3-4HKO unboosted, and if Gallade decides to set up Spiritomb can copy the boost to KO faster.
Zukrad
Just spam F-Air in the neutral and hope it works.
Towns Folk
It's:
Base: 6.75%
+1: 12.5%
+2: 50%
+3: 100%
Regardless, +3 is still 100%. I guess you should take crits only for moves that have a 100% chance to crit (Storm Throw and Frost Breath), or sets that have a 100% chance to crit (Super Luck + Scope Lens/Razor Claw + increased crit chance move), though the boost is the same as being Band/Specs so... besides being able to switch moves, there's not much of a difference for this game.
Anyways...
Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp.Def
Impish Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp
- Psych Up
- Pain Split
Shadow Sneak from Gallade is a possible 5HKO when burned and at +6 Attack (~9HKO at +0). Shadow Sneak from Spiritomb is a 3-4HKO unboosted, and if Gallade decides to set up Spiritomb can copy the boost to KO faster.
Hmm, You are right, I'm changing it
btw
Sylveon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 Spa / 6 Spdef
- Hyper Voice
- Hp fire
- Psyshock
- idk... Atract (?)
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MysticSniper
Spirit of a Dragon
Towns Folk
Ctritcals have more than that over choice items. They ignore attack down on the user and defense up on the target. Their also important for anything with sniper as its ability. It's not going to counter sylveon, but here's an example:It's:
Base: 6.75%
+1: 12.5%
+2: 50%
+3: 100%
Regardless, +3 is still 100%. I guess you should take crits only for moves that have a 100% chance to crit (Storm Throw and Frost Breath), or sets that have a 100% chance to crit (Super Luck + Scope Lens/Razor Claw + increased crit chance move), though the boost is the same as being Band/Specs so... besides being able to switch moves, there's not much of a difference for this game.
Anyways...
Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp.Def
Impish Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp
- Psych Up
- Pain Split
Shadow Sneak from Gallade is a possible 5HKO when burned and at +6 Attack (~9HKO at +0). Shadow Sneak from Spiritomb is a 3-4HKO unboosted, and if Gallade decides to set up Spiritomb can copy the boost to KO faster.
Kingdra @ scope lens
Timid
Sniper
252 hp / 100 spe / 52 def / 52 spa / 52 spd
Draco meteor
Scald
Flash cannon
Focus energy
After focus energy, it gets a 2.25 multiplier on all moves, and draco meteor no longer has a penalty. You can imagine the sweeping potential it has. The bulky ev spread so it can survive most neutral hits. It'd be deadly if passed some speed, though.
Zukrad
Just spam F-Air in the neutral and hope it works.
Towns Folk
About that...
The Banned Chronicles Part 1 "BP Has To Go"
This guy made a team by using Speed+Critical Hit pass to Heracross, Kingdra, and Espeon
Is quite a scary team
(btw, your EV's spread doesn't make a lot of sense, one doesn't just divide by 3 the remaining EV's and put them in the rest of stats)