Do you think the COD franchise is failing?

[Dark Eevee]

You need to actually play it to say that. Play Modern Warfare, Ghost and Black Ops 3, and tell me they are all the same.

I never played it but I saw a lot of gameplay. Even whole series. And well the three different series out of one are different somewhat, but otherwise look at the different modern warfares. They might change some things, but I don't feel like anything new is in the game.

 

[Ace]

I answered yes, but as an opinion. I haven't seen the sales report so I cannot say truthfully.

 

[2205]

I never played it but I saw a lot of gameplay. Even whole series. And well the three different series out of one are different somewhat, but otherwise look at the different modern warfares. They might change some things, but I don't feel like anything new is in the game.

It's true that the games inside the same series in the Franchise are similar, but is it really different from any actual franchise? Can we say that Pokémon games are different from each others, or Kirby games, etc?

Not really.

I feel like CoD gets unjustified hate, and people say they are all the same while it's not true, while at the same time other games doing the same thing over and over again get praise.

I don't understand.

If you feel like there's nothing new in the game, you need to check Black Ops 3 more. You can Wallrun, you have specialists with abilities allowing you to fight with a bow, see enemies through walls, teleport from a previous point and whatnot. You also have new killstreaks like a robot roaming the map seeking your enemies, a drone protecting you wherever you go or a device allowing you to disable every radar and equipment on the map. All of these things weren't in Modern Warfare, it's all new.

So, CoD is always the same? CoD doesn't innovate? To me it all sounds like people hating on non-sense, people who never actually played at least 3 Cod to compare them. Or just people in the hate bandwagon.

 

[Fyzzu]

It's true that the games inside the same series in the Franchise are similar, but is it really different from any actual franchise? Can we say that Pokémon games are different from each others, or Kirby games, etc?

Not really.

Yeah, but you're biased ;p

And also actually correct. Any franchise that runs for awhile without completely reinventing itself from the ground up begins to get familiar, but whether that's a bad thing or not is up to the player. Pokemon is basically the same game with new creatures and a few new features. Mario platformers are the same game with new levels and a few new power-ups (barring the reinvention into 3D, which... oh look, it reinvented itself).

CoD is a fast-paced, fast-death shooter series with a focus on multiplayer. That's true of pretty much all of them from Modern Warfare on - which was the point the series reinvented itself. But within that space it's always attempted new and interesting things, some of which worked, and some of which didn't. BlOps 2 did some really clever stuff and still got a lot of hate for being the same thing again, because it's still a fast-paced, fast-death shooter game with a focus on multiplayer.

There's an argument that CoD could probably do with taking a year or two off, but with multiple teams working on multiple iterations at once and with sales still peaking pretty goddamn high, why would they?

It's not so much that the franchise is failing; it's more that tribal mentality has led to people falling into the camps of the people who play it and the people who don't, and the longer the series runs with annual releases, the louder each camp gets.

 

[oshul]

i think they need to go back to how it used to be like on your feet instead of boosting around also I'm going to get hate but... let treyarch make the games for now on there the best personally also keep the slide in instead of the dolphin dive

 

[Anime-Tem]

If you think cod is repetitive just look at Mortal Kombat. It is the exact same thing every time. At least cod changes the game play every few games. Bf1 for the win.

 

[9070]

i think they need to go back to how it used to be like on your feet instead of boosting around also I'm going to get hate but... let treyarch make the games for now on there the best personally also keep the slide in instead of the dolphin dive

Yeah Treyarch undoubtedly make the best Call of Duty games. I'm definitely interested to see how Infinite Warfare does though since this is the first game from them since MW2 that hasn't been tortured (at least that we know of).

People that say Call of Duty is just a rehash every year don't play the series. They just watch trailers. Like them or not, the changes from Ghosts>Advanced Warfare were massive. So it really isn't fair to say Call of Duty doesn't do anything new. I mean dang I love me some 2D Mario and Pokemon but Call of Duty does more to innovate than those series.

 

[SilverOwl]

Call of duty has gone thru many changes since the beginning. The last couple of entries have been from new developers. Seems they are trying to find the right developer. But with so many people buying these games, it would take a lot of gamers to stop buying//playing these games to really ruin them. My two favorite ones are black ops and world at war.
But I'm more of a battlefield kind of of guy..so I would rather play that instead of any CoD game

 

[Natsu Swagneel]

Well, it's failing now at least

 

[2205]

Well, it's failing now at least

Not according to pre order numbers on amazon

 

[Natsu Swagneel]

Yeah, sure, but the amount of dislikes on the trailer is overwhelming. 3 million people disliking the game will hurt game sales. Honestly, as a CoD fan, this game isn't exactly what I wanted, but I may give it a chance. I don't really like the futuristic aspects of the new game, as people floating everywhere is going to be a disaster, and there are gonna be even more screaming squeakers cursing people out everywhere. I mean, as long of the "floating" thing has a certain limit or something, I'm fine with it. I think that they should stop trying to release a game every. Single. Year. They should just work on what really matters in a game, instead of just rushing it. Like Shigeru Miyamoto once said, a delayed game is eventually good, but a bad game is bad forever. I can honestly see why FaZe is more of a CS:GO clan now instead of a CoD one.

 

[2205]

There are multiple studios working on CoD, which means each CoD has been worked on for 3 years when it's released, I wouldn't call that a rushed game.

 

[Iridium Winter]

There are multiple studios working on CoD, which means each CoD has been worked on for 3 years when it's released, I wouldn't call that a rushed game.

A game every year does burn people out, though and I do think a lot more people want a longer wait between two games. That being said, I'm not saying CoD is failing (because it isn't).

 

[2205]

A game every year does burn people out, though and I do think a lot more people want a longer wait between two games. That being said, I'm not saying CoD is failing (because it isn't).

Though they are never in the obligation to buy every game that comes out.

Some people buy only the Infinity Wards games, others just the Treyarch ones, etc.

Because one year a bunch of people has no interest in an installment doesn't mean it's failing (I know you didn't say that, just talking in general for the topic)

 

[Ace]

Because one year a bunch of people has no interest in an installment doesn't mean it's failing

Well it's still not a good sign. And no I don't hate the franchise, I'm just indifferent about it. (Although the things in it are hardly what constitutes as modern warfare. Just kidding XD)

 

[2205]

Well it's still not a good sign. And no I don't hate the franchise, I'm just indifferent about it. (Although the things in it are hardly what constitutes as modern warfare. Just kidding XD)

Not really a bad sign either, BO3 had a similar issue when it was announced, and so far it looks like the best CoD I played in terms of gameplay in MP.

 

[Blue Knight]

Sales numbers... Really aren't a very good indicator of quality, by this measure, Paper Mario Sticker Star is a brilliant game and the Paper Mario 64 entry is trash, aggregate scores and fan opinion will tell you otherwise. It just means the product a)has a big fanbase or b) appeals a wide demographic.

I wouldn't say the series is failing, in that it's still selling well. Does it retain quality? That's where it's failing. 12 main games, one every year, is pretty blatant proof of money grubbing, considering the core concept remains unchanged.

 

[2205]

I'm under the impression that you didn't play many CoD games if you say that the quality isn't there or that the core game didn't change.

The core game changed A LOT and that what fans are complaining about. They want what the game was, and then they complain that the game is always the same.

Unhappy people are the ones that speak louder. When you enjoy your game, you play and you don't post everywhere about it. People are more likely to comment if it's bad, not the other way around.

 

[eonia]

call of duty is the mcdonald of videogames
very much people loves mcdonalds food, but the quality of that food is horrible

 

[2205]

Ok, whatever you say.

I just think you judge something you:

1. Don't really know
2. Don't even play
3. Isn't your type of game anyway

If at least you'd be able to say why you think it's a bad game, it would give something to talk about about.

btw, I worked many years in a McDonald's, your comparison is off