Moves Pokemon SHOULD or SHOULDN'T have!

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  • #21
Yeah, DD Flygon would be a reason to choose Flygon over Garchomp or Zygarde in some teams

And Aura Sphere, idk, it wouldn't be thaaaat OP, since is a weaker Focus Blast
Aura Sphere IS weaker than Focus Blast, BUT it never misses. With the insanely high Special Attack of Gengar and Alakazam, especially their megas, 1-Hit KOing most opponents with Aura Spere is OP, while Focus Blast has an intentional chance of missing.
 
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  • #22
Prinplup use metal claw. Even though I have flippers. I'm a steel type (Empoleon) But the only steel about me is my beak.

Patrat use Detect. O I was detected by a creepy rat now my draco meteor won't work. Good job Nintendo!
 
  • #23
Prinplup use metal claw. Even though I have flippers. I'm a steel type (Empoleon) But the only steel about me is my beak.

Patrat use Detect. O I was detected by a creepy rat now my draco meteor won't work. Good job Nintendo!
Prinplup COULD have claws under it's feathers and, when it evolves, they simply become larger. As for Patrat, it's perfectly normal. I don't see why you think Detect shouldn't be learned! What Detect is supposed to do is predict the opponent's move and dodge it! What's illogical about that? Also, let's not forget that Patrat is the "lookout Pokemon", which makes a move that literally scouts the opponent's moves even more logical!

Moving on, I really think Eevee and it's evolutions should get Foul Play! Only Umbreon can learn it, while it would be really useful in all of them!
 
  • #24
Prinplup COULD have claws under it's feathers and, when it evolves, they simply become larger. As for Patrat, it's perfectly normal. I don't see why you think Detect shouldn't be learned! What Detect is supposed to do is predict the opponent's move and dodge it! What's illogical about that? Also, let's not forget that Patrat is the "lookout Pokemon", which makes a move that literally scouts the opponent's moves even more logical!

Moving on, I really think Eevee and it's evolutions should get Foul Play! Only Umbreon can learn it, while it would be really useful in all of them!
Well while it could until proven it doesn't. Well I would like to see you detect an earthquake and take no damage. The thing is annoying besides the only thing it needs to detect is some glasses. (Creepy)
 
  • #25
Well while it could until proven it doesn't. Well I would like to see you detect an earthquake and take no damage. The thing is annoying besides the only thing it needs to detect is some glasses. (Creepy)
Just because it seem like you don't understand how Detect works,
Skip to minute 8.
 
  • #26
I'm making an Infernape at the moment and I just noticed that it CAN'T learn Drain Punch! Not even from move tutor! What's the logic behind that?! Close Combat and Brick Break don't get the Iron Fist boost, Power-Up Punch and Mach Punch are too weak, Focus Punch is too unreliable and Hammer Arm lowers speed.
 
  • #27
Just because it seem like you don't understand how Detect works,
Skip to minute 8.
Woah there! Hang on. I know exactly how detect works. Let me just tell you. You can't just simply jump over an earthquake like you can a slash or projectile. Plus I'm not doubting the abilities of Patrat I just don't see it having the ability of a Hitmonchan or Sceptile to give it that immunity.
 
  • #28
Just because the move is Fighting type doesn't mean that only fighting types should learn it! Jumping over an Earthquake is pretty logical to me and no one ever mentioned anything about slashing projectiles!

Electivire should be able to learn Sucker Punch and Drain Punch!
 
  • #29
Just because the move is Fighting type doesn't mean that only fighting types should learn it! Jumping over an Earthquake is pretty logical to me and no one ever mentioned anything about slashing projectiles!

Electivire should be able to learn Sucker Punch and Drain Punch!
Okay so your telling me that if you jump during an earthquake you would be in the air that long you wouldn't be harmed? That is why flying type and levitate pokemon are immune and not anyone else. I never stated anything about it being a fighing type move because honestly when you are using protect you are protecting yourself at all cost. When you use Detect you are trying to detect the move then move out the way.

Another thing, your kinda just saying pokemon should have moves because it looks cool. Nothing about Electivire triggers it should have drain punch, or Sucker punch. We all have our dreams
(Draco Meteor Lucario):(

Plus, this argument is kinda pointless wanna end this and be friends. (Or are you captain Falcon and are Friends with no one)
 
  • #30
Okay so your telling me that if you jump during an earthquake you would be in the air that long you wouldn't be harmed? That is why flying type and levitate pokemon are immune and not anyone else. I never stated anything about it being a fighing type move because honestly when you are using protect you are protecting yourself at all cost. When you use Detect you are trying to detect the move then move out the way.

Another thing, your kinda just saying pokemon should have moves because it looks cool. Nothing about Electivire triggers it should have drain punch, or Sucker punch. We all have our dreams
(Draco Meteor Lucario):(

Plus, this argument is kinda pointless wanna end this and be friends. (Or are you captain Falcon and are Friends with no one)
The move Earthquake lasts about 3 seconds and, with the insanely huge jumps Pokemon can do, it's not impossible to jump over it. Don't compare the move to the ones in real life! Let's leave it at that.
As for Electivire, I'm talking about it needing a priority move (Sucker Punch) and a substitute to Brick Break (Drain Punch). It's not that they would look cool, but simply that they would be great competitively! Both of them are great moves and would be pretty normal for it to have them. It can throw all elemental punches and tons of other punching moves, so why not Drain Punch too? Also, why would Sucker Punch be strange on Electivire, when Pokemon like Kangaskhan can learn it?
 
  • #31
*Bump*
Darkrai should get Aura Sphere (makes sense and will be able to deal with Steel/Rock/Dark types) and Zygarde should get Dragon Claw (it can only learn Outrage as a strong physical Dragon type move)!
 
  • #32
*Bump*
Darkrai should get Aura Sphere (makes sense and will be able to deal with Steel/Rock/Dark types) and Zygarde should get Dragon Claw (it can only learn Outrage as a strong physical Dragon type move)!

Zygarde... uhh... Doesn't have hands/claws? Maybe with the 100% form it can but that is if they make it happen. Same Goodra actually, it doesn't get Dragon Claw but it does have hands. Too slimy to grip I guess?
 
  • #33
Zygarde... uhh... Doesn't have hands/claws? Maybe with the 100% form it can but that is if they make it happen. Same Goodra actually, it doesn't get Dragon Claw but it does have hands. Too slimy to grip I guess?
I know it doesn't have hands, but having Dragon Dance along with great bulk, Zygarde should at least have some kind of Dragon type move to make use of that attack! It's just as nerfed as Sceptile in that regard! Why not give it at least a Dragon Rush? As for Goodra, same thing, but it's like a large Dragon jelly:p, so no Dragon Claw. It sad really how Dragon types are being treated like this from Nintendo! We need some more Dragon type moves! There haven't been any new ones lately!
 
  • #34
I know it doesn't have hands, but having Dragon Dance along with great bulk, Zygarde should at least have some kind of Dragon type move to make use of that attack! It's just as nerfed as Sceptile in that regard! Why not give it at least a Dragon Rush? As for Goodra, same thing, but it's like a large Dragon jelly:p, so no Dragon Claw. It sad really how Dragon types are being treated like this from Nintendo! We need some more Dragon type moves! There haven't been any new ones lately!

I'm aware that Zygarde does get Dragon Tail. So that doesn't seem too bad. But yeah.. >< We need more Dragon moves. D:
 
  • #35
I'm aware that Zygarde does get Dragon Tail. So that doesn't seem too bad. But yeah.. >< We need more Dragon moves. D:
You are forgetting one little thing, Dragon Tail has -6 priority, making it useless after a Dragon Dance!
 
  • #36
You are forgetting one little thing, Dragon Tail has -6 priority, making it useless after a Dragon Dance!

Hmm. Opps. Not completely useless, it still gets that Attack Boost. >.>
Just need to get rid of the Fairy before you decide to set up and Outrage all over the place.
 
  • #37
Hmm. Opps. Not completely useless, it still gets that Attack Boost. >.>
Just need to get rid of the Fairy before you decide to set up and Outrage all over the place.
But then you get the confusion! The only good Outrage users are Dragonite and Haxorus! Also, while it DOES have good Defense, but it's Sp.Defense it pretty mediocre, meaning an Ice Beam can 1-Hit KO it real easily! That means you can't afford to move last.
 
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  • #38
Quagsire -stealth rock
Rotom wash-Ice beam
I really thought that quagsire could learn stealth because swampert and sesmitoad can but quagsire can not

Rotom wash should know ice beam because sometimes it became really hard to handle those nasty glicor ,hippodown and landours
 
  • #39
Quagsire -stealth rock
Rotom wash-Ice beam
I really thought that quagsire could learn stealth because swampert and sesmitoad can but quagsire can not

Rotom wash should know ice beam because sometimes it became really hard to handle those nasty glicor ,hippodown and landours
Rotom Wash is called that because it is a solely water user and if it were to use Ice attacks too, it would be too OP. Hidden Power is enough or change it's forme to the refrigerator one. As for Quagsire, I agree, even though it has Unaware as it's ability. It would also be nice if it could learn Acid Armor too! It's weird that it doesn't get it. It wouldn't become OP since it's only weakness is to Grass and most moves are special! It gets Amnesia, so why not Acid Armor too?
 
  • #40
Heliosk should get Electro Ball! Seriously, they made an amazing move and the only decent user for it is Mega Manectric!
 
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