Moves Pokemon SHOULD or SHOULDN'T have!

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Im a expert player , and according to me moves that those pokémon should have:

Metagross/Mega Metagross - Fire Punch (Metagross/Mega Metagross is one of the pokémon that learns all elemental punch moves except Fire Punch ,while the choice seems a little odd it makes sense to a point that you wouldnt be limited to use Thunder Punch or Ice Punch in it to deal with certain threats, Fire Punch would cover more to a point you could kill things such as Ferrothorn or Skarmory and you wouldnt need to use Hammer Arm/Thunder Punch in is moveset because Fire Punch would already cover that Spot, as such you could include other moves in it which would make it even more diverse, and he does have many other powerful moves he could use , and especially with fire punch he could help a lot in specific teams who need fire power).

Serperior - Draco Meteor (Serperior having Draco Meteor could take advantage of is Hidden Ability Contrary to boost is SP.Attack because Contrary makes the side effects positive, so instead of losing SP.Attack using Draco Meteor it would improve instead, and would help him to OHKO some certain threats which Dragon Pulse couldnt do in the long way).

Of course the inclusion of such moves could make those pokémon OP in determined playstyles, that is why i think gamefreak didnt put those on them, but in Serperior case that could be possible especially if he gets a mega evolution at some point and possibly have a Grass/Dragon typing which would mean is typing would make Draco Meteor way more powerful, look at Lopunny for example it got the move High Jump Kick in ORAS + is mega evolution so this can happen.
 
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Im a expert player , and according to me moves that those pokémon should have:

Metagross/Mega Metagross - Fire Punch (Metagross/Mega Metagross is one of the pokémon that learns all elemental punch moves except Fire Punch ,while the choice seems a little odd it makes sense to a point that you wouldnt be limited to use Thunder Punch or Ice Punch in it to deal with certain threats, Fire Punch would cover more to a point you could kill things such as Ferrothorn or Skarmory and you wouldnt need to use Hammer Arm/Thunder Punch in is moveset because Fire Punch would already cover that Spot, as such you could include other moves in it which would make it even more diverse, and he does have many other powerful moves he could use , and especially with fire punch he could help a lot in specific teams who need fire power).

Serperior - Draco Meteor (Serperior having Draco Meteor could take advantage of is Hidden Ability Contrary to boost is SP.Attack because Contrary makes the side effects positive, so instead of losing SP.Attack using Draco Meteor it would improve instead, and would help him to OHKO some certain threats which Dragon Pulse couldnt do in the long way).

Of course the inclusion of such moves could make those pokémon OP in determined playstyles, that is why i think gamefreak didnt put those on them, but in Serperior case that could be possible especially if he gets a mega evolution at some point and possibly have a Grass/Dragon typing which would mean is typing would make Draco Meteor way more powerful, look at Lopunny for example it got the move High Jump Kick in ORAS + is mega evolution so this can happen.
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I have to disagree to both. The reason Metagross doesn't get Fire Punch isn't because it would be too OP, but because it's a Steel type! Pokemon holds no logic MOST of the time, but you can't expect something made out of steel to just cloak itself in flames! Just think about it. As for Serperior, not only does it already have Leaf Storm for that job, Draco Meteor is a Dragon type exclusive move (excluding Arceus and Jirachi)! Secptile doesn't get it either because it's a Dragon type only after becoming a mega.
About Lopunny, it could already use Jump Kick, so why is it strange that it can now use Hi Jump Kick too?

Darmanitan should have Thunder Punch.
 
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I have to disagree to both. The reason Metagross doesn't get Fire Punch isn't because it would be too OP, but because it's a Steel type! Pokemon holds no logic MOST of the time, but you can't expect something made out of steel to just cloak itself in flames! Just think about it. As for Serperior, not only does it already have Leaf Storm for that job, Draco Meteor is a Dragon type exclusive move (excluding Arceus and Jirachi)! Secptile doesn't get it either because it's a Dragon type only after becoming a mega.
About Lopunny, it could already use Jump Kick, so why is it strange that it can now use Hi Jump Kick too?

Darmanitan should have Thunder Punch.
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Well that is all true but you cant deny it would be good on them to use in competitive battles, and i wasnt thinking Metagross would cloak itself on flames or something, but instead generate fire from is arms through combustion.
 
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Well that is all true but you cant deny it would be good on them to use in competitive battles, and i wasnt thinking Metagross would cloak itself on flames or something, but instead generate fire from is arms through combustion.
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Metagross is a computer, not a steam engine. It's a completely different thing.
 
  • #45
Yes but its strange he can do Thunder Punch/Ice Punch and not able to generate a Fire Punch.
There is not supposed to be any logic. :confused:
 
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Yes but its strange he can do Thunder Punch/Ice Punch and not able to generate a Fire Punch.
There is not supposed to be any logic. :confused:
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Steel is both cold and a good electrical conductor, so it does make sense.
 
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I see sorry i didnt know, thanks for the info. :)
 
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I see sorry i didnt know, thanks for the info. :)
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It's ok. Do you have any more suggestions for moves? I don't do much battling in the lower tiers (I mostly do RU and above), so I may not think about some moves that would be good for Pokemon down there.
 
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Actually i dont do to much active battling in the other tiers , so im afraid i cant tell you any other suggestions of moves, the only format im best at is OU and i have been playing that only basically since pokémon came out, im aware of some RU, UU pokémon potential that i sometimes include in my OU teams, but they are very specific.
 
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Im a expert player , and according to me moves that those pokémon should have:

Metagross/Mega Metagross - Fire Punch (Metagross/Mega Metagross is one of the pokémon that learns all elemental punch moves except Fire Punch ,while the choice seems a little odd it makes sense to a point that you wouldnt be limited to use Thunder Punch or Ice Punch in it to deal with certain threats, Fire Punch would cover more to a point you could kill things such as Ferrothorn or Skarmory and you wouldnt need to use Hammer Arm/Thunder Punch in is moveset because Fire Punch would already cover that Spot, as such you could include other moves in it which would make it even more diverse, and he does have many other powerful moves he could use , and especially with fire punch he could help a lot in specific teams who need fire power).

Serperior - Draco Meteor (Serperior having Draco Meteor could take advantage of is Hidden Ability Contrary to boost is SP.Attack because Contrary makes the side effects positive, so instead of losing SP.Attack using Draco Meteor it would improve instead, and would help him to OHKO some certain threats which Dragon Pulse couldnt do in the long way).

Of course the inclusion of such moves could make those pokémon OP in determined playstyles, that is why i think gamefreak didnt put those on them, but in Serperior case that could be possible especially if he gets a mega evolution at some point and possibly have a Grass/Dragon typing which would mean is typing would make Draco Meteor way more powerful, look at Lopunny for example it got the move High Jump Kick in ORAS + is mega evolution so this can happen.
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Yep i guess i will totally agree with it

Come on metgroos can learn thuder punch ,ice punch then why not fire punch there nothing much to handle scizor ,fetthorn and skarmory

Sure it will be awesome if sepior could learn draco meteor
 
  • #51
I was just checking Electivire again and I really think it should be able to learn Flame Charge from the TM! Just 50 power wouldn't be OP considering it can learn Fire Punch!
Another Pokemon I think needs a move is Greninja! It's sad how it's mostly a special attacker and even it's signature move is physical! That's why I think Vacuum Wave would be nice to have! It only has Low Kick, which is physical, and Focus Blast, which is terrible! Vaccum Wave wouldn't be OP as it only has 40 power!Also, about Vacuum Wave, they really need to put it in the move tutor list for BP!
 
  • #52
Reviving this thread.

It would be great if Talonflame could learn Mirror Move! It would be awesome if you think about it and with the terrible offensive stats it has, it won't be OP!
 
  • #53
Charizard should learn Dragon Breath..
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IUt learned it in Gen. 2 by TM.
 
  • #54
Snorlax-Surf????!!!
Genesect-fly????

For Snorlax he would just drown instantly unless he is a floating balloon on sea and for Genesect it has no Wings of sort at all
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In the Genesect movie, the Genesect folds their bodies and fly in a sleek form that allows them to easily fly.
 
  • #55
Charizard- every dragon type move ever he should know

Magikarp- should be able to learn water gun

Dodrio- should not be able to fly
 
  • #56
We all know that detect should only block fighting moves. So we all know where I'm going with this........Patrat
 
  • #57
Heliolisk Solar beam
Its based on the god of sun Helios plus it evolves with a sun stone. I almost forgot it evolves with a sun stone
Ampharos tail glow.
Its pokedex only states about Ampharos lighting up lighthouses with its tail. SO WHY DON'T AMPHAROS HAS TAIL GLOW. It irks me so much
 
  • #58
I think Garchomp should get Dragon Dance. With it, it might go to ubers, and it wojld be a nigh unkillable team sweeper. It would be absolutely amazing to use DD chomp to demolish teams like @J9794 . And I don't think magikarp should get Bounce. It makes no reason at all for magikarp to have bounce, snd there's no reason it should have it. Nobody would ever use karp.
 
  • #59
I think Garchomp should get Dragon Dance. With it, it might go to ubers, and it wojld be a nigh unkillable team sweeper. It would be absolutely amazing to use DD chomp to demolish teams like @J9794 . And I don't think magikarp should get Bounce. It makes no reason at all for magikarp to have bounce, snd there's no reason it should have it. Nobody would ever use karp.
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Please, a DD garchomp has nothing on me.
 
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