Counter that threat!!

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  • #201
Damage calc said that Chandy can OHKO with Heat Wave and Shdow Ball. Plus Stone Edge is not a OHKO unless it crits. So assuming that I thought it was a good answer :panda:
At it's lowest Stone Egde deals out 99% though, even without a crit, the damage potential is so high that if it doesn't kill Chandelure, it could be called hax, and hax aren't dependable.

Bisharp @ life orb
Jolly
Defiant
252 atk & spd, 4 def
Knock off
Iron head
Stone edge
Swords dance

No Sucker Punch?
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Durant @ Choice Band
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor
- Rock Slide
- Superpower

Doesn't like Knock Off, but handles in all situations.​
 
  • #202
Vaporeon @ leftovers
Bold
Water absorb
252 hp & def, 4 spd
Scald
Protect
Ice beam
Aqua ring

Protect lets it trap durant into one of its moves, then, if it's not x scisor, can easily take it out in 2 scalds.
 
  • #203
Vaporeon @ leftovers
Bold
Water absorb
252 hp & def, 4 spd
Scald
Protect
Ice beam
Aqua ring

Protect lets it trap durant into one of its moves, then, if it's not x scisor, can easily take it out in 2 scalds.

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Hoopa-Unbound @ Choice Specs
Ability: Magician
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dark Pulse
- Psyshock
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt

I won guys
 
  • #204
A ballroom dancer begs to differ.
Gardevoir @ gardevoirite
Modest
Trace -> pixilate
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Hyper voice
Psyshock
Energy ball
Shadow ball

She's faster and hyper voice is a OHKO.
 
  • #205
A ballroom dancer begs to differ.
Gardevoir @ gardevoirite
Modest
Trace -> pixilate
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Hyper voice
Psyshock
Energy ball
Shadow ball

She's faster and hyper voice is a OHKO.

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Aggron (Mega) @ Aggronite
Ability: Filter
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SpD
Impish Nature
- Heavy Slam
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
SleepTalk because Wynaut? :panda:
 
  • #206
Charizard @ charizardite y
Modest
Drought
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Heat wave
Air slash
Solarbeam
Roost

Even if you had a rock move on it, heat wave is a OHKO, and your outsped.
 
  • #207
Froggy says hi!

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Politoed @Leftovers
Drizzle
Calm Nature
4 HP, 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Sp. Def
-Encore
-Hydro Pump
-Hypnosis
-Bounce

(Not actually damage calc'd, but I figured Charizard hates rain so I brought this)​
 
  • #208
Manectric @ air ballon
Modest
Sturdy
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Thunder
Hidden power fire
Flash cannon
Signal beam

You brought the rain, so I brought the thunder.
 
  • #209
Manectric @ air ballon
Modest
Sturdy
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Thunder
Hidden power fire
Flash cannon
Signal beam

You brought the rain, so I brought the thunder.
Sturdy Manectric? :confused: Flash Cannon? Wrong mon :p
 
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  • #210
Manectric @ air ballon
Modest
Sturdy
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Thunder
Hidden power fire
Flash cannon
Signal beam

You brought the rain, so I brought the thunder.
How does one counter a hackmon?
 
  • #211
I meant magnezone.
 
  • #212
Are we still playing in Rain?

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Gastrodon @Leftovers
Storm Drain
Calm Nature
252 HP, 4 Sp. Atk, 252 Sp. Def
-Ice Beam
-Scald
-Earth Power
-Recover

Wall :p
 
  • #213
Serperior @ life orb
Timid
Contrary
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Leaf storm
Hidden power fire
Dragon pulse
Giga drain
 
  • #214
A ballroom dancer begs to differ.
Gardevoir @ gardevoirite
Modest
Trace -> pixilate
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Hyper voice
Psyshock
Energy ball
Shadow ball

She's faster and hyper voice is a OHKO.

She is not faster, you are running Modest

And is not a Counter, you still need to switch in a Dark Pulse
 
  • #215
Serperior @ life orb
Timid
Contrary
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Leaf storm
Hidden power fire
Dragon pulse
Giga drain
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M-Venusaur @Venusaurite
Thick Fat
Bold Nature
248 HP, 96 Def, 144 Sp Def, 20 Spe
-Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
-Synthesis
-HP Fire

How often does one beat a grass type with another grass type? Probably more often than I expect :p
 
  • #216
Charizard @ cjarizardite y
Modest
Drought
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Heat wave
Solar beam
Air slash
Roost

In real life, plants like sunlight. But this is pokemon, which means they only burn easier.
 
  • #217
Charizard @ cjarizardite y
Modest
Drought
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Heat wave
Solar beam
Air slash
Roost

In real life, plants like sunlight. But this is pokemon, which means they only burn easier.
Orrrrrr... you make them faster and screw yourself :p

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Tangrowth @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Rash Nature
- Solar Beam
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Hidden Power [Ice]​
 
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  • #218
Ferrothorn @ rocky helmet
Brave
Iron barbs
252 hp & sp. Def, 4 def
Power whip
Gyro ball
Knock off
Thunder wave

Kills your speed, takes away your life orb, then tanks it to death.
 
  • #219
Are we playing Mono-Grass?

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Breloom @Life Orb
Technician
Jolly Nature
252 Atk, 4 Def, 252 Spe
-Spore
-Bullet Seed
-Mach Punch
-Swords Dance

Comes in, takes any hit, clicks Swords Dance, then Priority Mach Punch takes over :p
 
  • #220
Ferrothorn @ rocky helmet
Brave
Iron barbs
252 hp & sp. Def, 4 def
Power whip
Gyro ball
Knock off
Thunder wave

Kills your speed, takes away your life orb, then tanks it to death.
Paralyzing really isn't the brightest idea, as you would bring Gyro Ball's power down to laughable levels and Power Whip doesn't do enough to beat Tangrowth since it'll still be faster after paralysis: (assuming Sun is still up)

0+ Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (18 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tangrowth: 18-22 (5.2 - 6.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever

0+ Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tangrowth: 55-66 (16.1 - 19.3%) -- possible 6HKO

4 Atk Tangrowth Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ferrothorn: 57-68 (16.1 - 19.3%) -- possible 6HKO (no Life Orb)

Of course, you're play with the 1/4 chance of Tangrowth not moving, but if you rely on hax, it really isn't a counter nor a check.
 
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