Counter that threat!!

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Golem @ leftovers
Impish
Rock head
252 hp, 212 atk, 44 def
Double edge
Earthquake
Stone edge
Rock polish

Tanks that brave bird forever, then stone edge is nearly a guarenteed OHKO.
 
  • #162
I would use Ludicolo again because it's so awesome buuuuuut I'll leave that for another day :p

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Smogon Koffing @ Eviolite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Fire Blast/Flamethrower​
 
  • #163
I would use Ludicolo again because it's so awesome buuuuuut I'll leave that for another day :p

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Smogon Koffing @ Eviolite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Fire Blast/Flamethrower​
I fought a Weezing like that yesterday, it tanked my V-Create, and got that crit-haxed Sludge Bomb on me, and I died by poison; I was not pleased at all.
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Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- U-turn
- Fire Punch
- Heart Stamp​
 
  • #164
I fought a Weezing like that yesterday, it tanked my V-Create, and got that crit-haxed Sludge Bomb on me, and I died by poison; I was not pleased at all.
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Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- U-turn
- Fire Punch
- Heart Stamp​
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Talonflame @Choice Band
Gale Wings
252 Atk, 4 Def, 252 Spe.
Jolly Nature
-Brave Bird
-Flare Blitz
-U Turn
-Steel Wings

Eat an entire Flare Blitz :p
 
  • #165
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Sudowoodo @ Custap Berry
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Sucker Punch
- Counter
- Explosion

Eat an entire tree... rock... thing... yeah! :p
 
  • #166
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Sudowoodo @ Custap Berry
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Sucker Punch
- Counter
- Explosion

Eat an entire tree... rock... thing... yeah! :p
Kyurem-Black @ Life Orb
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power
- Fusion Bolt
- Roost

Just in case someone asks, Teravolt ignores Sturdy
 
  • #167
Kyurem-Black @ Life Orb
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild Nature
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power
- Fusion Bolt
- Roost

Just in case someone asks, Teravolt ignores Sturdy
Welp, at least it can Sucker Punch :p

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Clefable @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- Ice Beam
Offensive Clefable best Clefable​
 
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  • #168
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Talonflame @Choice Band
Gale Wings
252 Atk, 4 Def, 252 Spe.
Jolly Nature
-Brave Bird
-Flare Blitz
-U Turn
-Steel Wings

Eat an entire Flare Blitz :p

Despite it's ability to kill Heart Stamp Jirachi, it isn't actually a counter to it because Flare Blitz doesn't get priority, and it's still quite vulnerable to Heart Stamp alongside the flinch rate.

Welp, at least it can Sucker Punch :p

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Clefable @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- Ice Beam
Offensive Clefable best Clefable​

That poor sweet baby's gonna die swowly...
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Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Tri Attack
- Recover
- Thunder Wave​
 
  • #169
Lucario @ lucarionite
Jolly
Adaptability
252 atk & spd, 4 def
Close combat
Stone edge
Bullet punch
Swords dance
 
  • #170
Welp, at least it can Sucker Punch :p

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Clefable @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- Ice Beam
Offensive Clefable best Clefable​

No recovery Clef? Also, Fire and Figthing ussualy hit the same stuff, so there is no need to have both, the same goes for Fairy and Ice

Lucario @ lucarionite
Jolly
Adaptability
252 atk & spd, 4 def
Close combat
Stone edge
Bullet punch
Swords dance

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Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 8 Def / 200 SpD / 56 Spe
Careful Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Roost​
 
  • #171
Serperior @ life orb
Timid
Contrary
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Leaf storm
Hidden power ice
Dragon pulse
Giga drain

Hp ice.is a 2HKO, but leaf storm is also, and gives more power.
 
  • #172
No recovery Clef? Also, Fire and Figthing ussualy hit the same stuff, so there is no need to have both, the same goes for Fairy and Ice
Offensive Clefable doesn't necessarily need the recovery, although you can fit Softboiled/Moonlight there for longevity. The only reason I put in Focus Blast there was because of Heatran, but I guess Thunderbolt is a better option, letting it hit stuff like Azumarill for super-effective damage. Another option is the aforementioned Softboiled/Moonlight

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Jynx (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Psyshock
- Lovely Kiss
- Focus Blast
Jynx is able to take a Leaf Storm and retaliate back with a OHKO Ice Beam​
 
  • #173
Offensive Clefable doesn't necessarily need the recovery, although you can fit Softboiled/Moonlight there for longevity. The only reason I put in Focus Blast there was because of Heatran, but I guess Thunderbolt is a better option, letting it hit stuff like Azumarill for super-effective damage. Another option is the aforementioned Softboiled/Moonlight

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Jynx (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Psyshock
- Lovely Kiss
- Focus Blast
Jynx is able to take a Leaf Storm and retaliate back with a OHKO Ice Beam​

#meta<3kyuuuuuuuuloljkjknohomo
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Metagross @ Assault Vest
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Atk / 96 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake

That low defense won't like a Bullet Punch... tsk tsk​
 
  • #174
It also really doesn't like m zard x's flare blitz, but you beat me to it.

Charizard @ charizardite x
Jolly
Tough claws
252 atk & spd, 4 def
Flare blitz
Earthquake
Dragon claw
Dragon dance

Flare blitz still OHKOs metagross unboosted.
 
  • #175
#meta<3kyuuuuuuuuloljkjknohomo
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Metagross @ Assault Vest
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Atk / 96 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake

That low defense won't like a Bullet Punch... tsk tsk​
Spoopy ghost

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Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SpD
Careful Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect
- Pain Split​

 
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  • #176
Offensive Clefable doesn't necessarily need the recovery, although you can fit Softboiled/Moonlight there for longevity. The only reason I put in Focus Blast there was because of Heatran, but I guess Thunderbolt is a better option, letting it hit stuff like Azumarill for super-effective damage. Another option is the aforementioned Softboiled/Moonlight

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Jynx (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Psyshock
- Lovely Kiss
- Focus Blast
Jynx is able to take a Leaf Storm and retaliate back with a OHKO Ice Beam​
Is not that Offensive Clef doesnt need recovery, Clef ALWAYS needs recovery, the Offensive set is a Bulky attacker or a set up sweeper, not a Glass Cannon
Also, there is a better way to deal with heatran... switching out, no need to lure something that beats you 1v1 even when you have the coverage to hit it

Spoopy ghost

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Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SpD
Careful Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect
- Pain Split​

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Heracross @ Choice Band
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Knock Off
- Stone Edge​
 
  • #177
Is not that Offensive Clef doesnt need recovery, Clef ALWAYS needs recovery, the Offensive set is a Bulky attacker or a set up sweeper, not a Glass Cannon
Also, there is a better way to deal with heatran... switching out, no need to lure something that beats you 1v1 even when you have the coverage to hit it


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Heracross @ Choice Band
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Knock Off
- Stone Edge​
@Zukrad's gonna hurt somebody lol
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Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Tailwind​
 
  • #178
Is not that Offensive Clef doesnt need recovery, Clef ALWAYS needs recovery, the Offensive set is a Bulky attacker or a set up sweeper, not a Glass Cannon
Also, there is a better way to deal with heatran... switching out, no need to lure something that beats you 1v1 even when you have the coverage to hit it


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Heracross @ Choice Band
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Knock Off
- Stone Edge​
I see your point. I just like to have the coverage.

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Sableye-Mega @ Sablenite
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Dazzling Gleam
- Calm Mind
- Recover
No WoW because YOLO

EDIT: Darn it! Got Ninjask'd...
 
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  • #179
Lol sorry, and I'm rather impressed to check and find that T-flame puts as much pressure on that as it does.
 
  • #180
Lol sorry, and I'm rather impressed to check and find that T-flame puts as much pressure on that as it does.
Well... I guess Mega Sableye counters it still? Sort of? It can make it kill itself with recoil by spamming Recover (Banded Brave Bird/Flare Blitz do around ~50% to fully physically defensive Mega Sableye so it completely mitigates the damage)
 
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