Counter that threat!!

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  • #101
Not everyone can use the pgl, though.
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However, everyone can use PGL :p
I tend to check up on it every now and then to see how many Miles it stole from my game lol >.>
I'm at about 100k miles on there, might go on a PGL buying spree. Who knows lol.

Back on topic, I have to counter the Cradily no? That's gonna be a toughy, but I'll fiddle around till I find something.

To answer this:
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Cradily @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Recover
- Giga Drain
- Rock Slide

Walls him comfortably at +3 and gets the 2 hit switching in for the boost.
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I'm gonna use this.

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Avalugg @Leftovers
Own Tempo
Careful Nature
248 HP, 8 Def, 252 Sp. Def.
-Rapid Spin
-Recover
-Avalanche
-Earthquake
Ok so the first thing I thought I would need is something that resists both Rock and Grass moves. Ice came to mind somehow. Then I thought about Ice types that could hit hard and tank both Physical and Special hits (for Giga Drain and Rock Slide). Then Avalugg decided to shine. Avalugg outwalls the Cradily and even has some Recovery of it's own. It can spin off the Stealth Rocks you threw out earlier, and can guarantee and 2HKO with Avalanche, and if it crits then it's a OHKO. I give props to Cradily for being such a great Defensive mon though, but Avalugg plays the Wall game better than it in this case :p

#PUBoys​
 
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  • #102
No point walling that; my personal rule when playing is, if ever anything becomes a problem, "smash it with a rock!"
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Cloyster @ White Herb
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Ice Shard
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  • #103
Magnezone @ air ballon
Modest
Magnet pull
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Thunderbolt
Flash cannon
Hidden power fire
Volt switch

Smash that cloyster with zeus's wrath.
 
  • #104
Charizard Y
Timid
Drought
252 SpA/4SpD/252 Speed
Protect
Flamethrower
Solar Beam
Air Slash
Magnezone Ain't In the zone anymore. >:]
 
  • #105
Someone new joins us.
Charizard @ charizardite x
Jolly
Tough claws
252 atk & spd, 4 def
Flare blitz, stone edge, dragon claw, dragon dance

Protect just gives me a free turn to setup, then stone edge destroys you.
 
  • #106
I'm gonna assume you already boosted your Zard X with Dragon Dance for this one:

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Malamar @Leftovers
Contrary
Impish Nature
4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Def.
-SuperPower
-Psycho Cut
-Topsy-Turvy
-Night Slash

Your DD means nothing with Topsy Turvy in the house, in turn it begins working against you :sneaky:. Superpower boosts Attack and Defense for Malamar, thanks to Contrary. So in turn, you're weakened and I'm getting free Attack and Defense boosts. Life is great.

Did this without Damage Calc, so I'm not too sure as to how effective this one is, but it's something I thought would be funny on something that got a Dragon Dance or 2 off :p​
 
  • #107
New? He got here before I did...

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Slack Off
- Stone Edge​
 
  • #108
I'm gonna assume you already boosted your Zard X with Dragon Dance for this one:

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Malamar @Leftovers
Contrary
Impish Nature
4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Def.
-SuperPower
-Psycho Cut
-Topsy-Turvy
-Night Slash

Your DD means nothing with Topsy Turvy in the house, in turn it begins working against you :sneaky:. Superpower boosts Attack and Defense for Malamar, thanks to Contrary. So in turn, you're weakened and I'm getting free Attack and Defense boosts. Life is great.

Did this without Damage Calc, so I'm not too sure as to how effective this one is, but it's something I thought would be funny on something that got a Dragon Dance or 2 off :p​
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Malamar is a solid answer to a lot of things but lacks the immediate power to overwhelm that Charx. I'm also not near a calc ATM.

Edit: I mistook the evs for something else, perhaps a slightly different EV spread might do it, losing some atk power for more bulk. The max Def you put might be a game changer there.

Edit x2: I meant immediate bulk, not immediate power.
 
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  • #109
Doesn't win. Flare blitz takes 95% of that malamar's hp. Even after flipping my attack, you don't have the hp to survive anything else.
 
  • #110
Doesn't do it well even with more bulk, his limited recovery options keep him back a little so:

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Slack Off
- Stone Edge​
 
  • #111
Someone new joins us.
Charizard @ charizardite x
Jolly
Tough claws
252 atk & spd, 4 def
Flare blitz, stone edge, dragon claw, dragon dance

Protect just gives me a free turn to setup, then stone edge destroys you.
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You dont always have to use prot first
 
  • #112
Sorry For Double Post. But:
Omastar @ White Herb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Shell Smash
- Aqua Jet
- Knock Off
OBEY THE HELIX FOSSIL
 
  • #113
Torterra @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Atk / 128 Def
Adamant Nature
- Wood Hammer
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Synthesis
 
  • #114
Beartic @ air balloon
Adamant
Swift swim
252 atk & spd, 4 hp
Icicle crash
Aqua jet
Rock slide
Play rough
 
  • #115
Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Def / 160 Spe
Impish Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Flare Blitz
- Roost
- Earthquake
 
  • #116
Charizard @ charizardite y
Modest
Drought
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Heat wave, dragon pulse, solar beam, air slash
 
  • #117
Charizard @ charizardite y
Modest
Drought
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Heat wave, dragon pulse, solar beam, air slash
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I notice you like to counter charizard with charizard xD

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Raichu @Focus Sash
Lightningrod
Timid Nature
4 Atk, 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spe.
-Fake Out
-Thunderbolt
-Grass Knot
-Focus Blast
I'm very well under the belief that Zard Y can OHKO Raichu with a big Heat Wave under the sun, but that's why I have a Sash. It's simply just first turn Fake Out for the slight damage, then go for the big T-Bolt of destruction. Grass Knot is for scary Ground types (although it doesn't matter since most can tank it), and Focus Blast is for Coverage against Rock types.

Yeet :p​
EDIT: Who tf is Focus
 
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  • #118
Yeah, sometimes when I try to set items, it want to tag someone. Mzard y wins. Max damage from fake out is 11.7%. Max from thunderbolt is 81.4%. That comes out to 93.1%. Then, as you predicted, heat wave kills your raichu with a min damage of 137.1%. You would win if either criticals, thunderbolt causes paralasis and it works on the first turn, or heat wave misses, but the best chance of any of those working is 5%.
 
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  • #119
For Raichu
Excadrill @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance


For Charizard
Electivire @ Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Wild Charge
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Hidden Power Grass
 
  • #120
For Charizard
Electivire @ Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Wild Charge
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Hidden Power Grass
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Answering this since it's a correct Counter >.>

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Mega Steelix @Steelixite
Sand Force
Impish Nature
252 HP, 56 Def., 200 Sp. Def.
-Stealth Rocks
-Roar
-Heavy Slam
-Earthquake
Walls your Earthquake. OHKOs with Earthquake.
Damage Calculator results:
252 Atk Life Orb Electivire Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 56+ Def Mega Steelix: 117-138 (33 - 38.9%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO
0 Atk Mega Steelix Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Electivire: 362-428 (124.3 - 147%) -- guaranteed OHKO​
 
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