Counter that threat!!

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And to answear both:
Flygon @ choice scarf
Timid
Levitate
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Earth power, boomburst, ice beam/dragon pulse if unlearnable
Signal beam

It outspeeds vire by 11, and earth power 1hits it. It's immune to the sandstorm your drill wants, can withstand anything it has, and 1hit with earth power. You beat me by 10 seconds @n. The ev spread on your steelix is invalid, though. Flygon kills it in 2 hits while heavy slam only saves you 30% of the time, so it barely counters flygon.
 
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  • #122
And to answear both:
Flygon @ choice scarf
Timid
Levitate
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Earth power, boomburst, ice beam/dragon pulse if unlearnable
Signal beam

It outspeeds vire by 11, and earth power 1hits it. It's immune to the sandstorm your drill wants, can withstand anything it has, and 1hit with earth power. You beat me by 10 seconds @n.
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We both answered at the same time xD
 
  • #123
And to answear both:
Flygon @ choice scarf
Timid
Levitate
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Earth power, boomburst, ice beam/dragon pulse if unlearnable
Signal beam

It outspeeds vire by 11, and earth power 1hits it. It's immune to the sandstorm your drill wants, can withstand anything it has, and 1hit with earth power. You beat me by 10 seconds @n. The ev spread on your steelix is invalid, though.
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Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Icicle Crash
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick
 
  • #124
And to answear both:
Flygon @ choice scarf
Timid
Levitate
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 def
Earth power, boomburst, ice beam/dragon pulse if unlearnable
Signal beam

It outspeeds vire by 11, and earth power 1hits it. It's immune to the sandstorm your drill wants, can withstand anything it has, and 1hit with earth power. You beat me by 10 seconds @n. The ev spread on your steelix is invalid, though.
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Fixed it >.>
I'll answer Flygon in the next post, nobody post a thing!
EDIT: NVM I'LL GO AFTER WEAVILE NOW
 
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Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Icicle Crash
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick
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Azumarill @Sitrus Berry
Huge Power
Adamant Nature
92 HP, 252 Atk, 164 Spe.
-Belly Drum
-Aqua Jet
-Play Rough
-Knock Off
252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Weavile: 506-596 (180 - 212%) -- guaranteed OHKO

IT'Z A WATER/FAIRY TYPE!!!​
 
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Serperior @ choice specs
Jolly
Contrary
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Leaf storm, nature power tri attack, dragon pulse, hidden power ice.
 
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Serperior @ choice specs
Jolly
Contrary
252 sp. Atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Leaf storm, nature power tri attack, dragon pulse, hidden power ice.
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Jolly Nature on a Special Attacker? Whatever floats yer boat.
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Infernape @Life Orb
Iron Fist
Jolly Nature
252 Atk, 4 Sp. Atk, 252 Spe.
-Mach Punch
-Flare Blitz
-Gunk Shot
-U-Turn

Damage Calc results:​
252 Atk Life Orb Infernape Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Serperior: 455-538 (156.3 - 184.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Infernape Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Serperior: 304-359 (104.4 - 123.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Fire Monkey is best Monkey.
 
  • #128
Yeah, sometimes when I try to set items, it want to tag someone. Mzard y wins. Max damage from fake out is 11.7%. Max from thunderbolt is 81.4%. That comes out to 93.1%. Then, as you predicted, heat wave kills your raichu with a min damage of 137.1%. You would win if either criticals, thunderbolt causes paralasis and it works on the first turn, or heat wave misses, but the best chance of any of those working is 5%.
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Nice try but that Raichu handled that Char Y in all situations because of Focus Sash.

I would have liked to cross-examine a few other things, but oh well, teh fight has moved on...

Jolly Nature on a Special Attacker? Whatever floats yer boat.
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Infernape @Life Orb
Iron Fist
Jolly Nature
252 Atk, 4 Sp. Atk, 252 Spe.
-Mach Punch
-Flare Blitz
-Gunk Shot
-U-Turn

Damage Calc results:​
252 Atk Life Orb Infernape Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Serperior: 455-538 (156.3 - 184.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Infernape Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Serperior: 304-359 (104.4 - 123.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Fire Monkey is best Monkey.
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Miltank @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Body Slam
- Milk Drink
- Toxic
- Stealth Rock

Since you're not running Close Combat, this set can stall Infernape with relative ease and heal back any and all HP lost as he fights it.​
 
  • #129
Nice try but that Raichu handled that Char Y in all situations because of Focus Sash.

I would have liked to cross-examine a few other things, but oh well, teh fight has moved on...



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Miltank @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Body Slam
- Milk Drink
- Toxic
- Stealth Rock

Since you're not running Close Combat, this set can stall Infernape with relative ease and heal back any and all HP lost as he fights it.​
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Gengar
Taunt
Dark Pulse
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
252 Spa 252 Spd 4 Hp
Timid Nature
 
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Gengar
Taunt
Dark Pulse
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
252 Spa 252 Spd 4 Hp
Timid Nature
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Mah poor widdle cow is so halplass... Guess birdie's got a mission :cool:
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Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Steel Wing

No item, @Zaeehh?​
 
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Mah poor widdle cow is so halplass... Guess birdie's got a mission :cool:
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Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Steel Wing

No item, @Zaeehh?​
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Heatran @ Air Balloon
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Flash Cannon
- Stealth Rock​
 
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Heatran @ Air Balloon
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Flash Cannon
- Stealth Rock​
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Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch

Resists all three of it's attacks, and comfortably walls it, while still being able to set up rocks of it's own, and doesn't need to worry about the Air Balloon as it has a very high chance to get the OHKO with Waterfall.

Works the same unevolved with a Life Orb, but has a slightly higher chance to OHKO.​
 
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Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch

Resists all three of it's attacks, and comfortably walls it, while still being able to set up rocks of it's own, and doesn't need to worry about the Air Balloon as it has a very high chance to get the OHKO with Waterfall.

Works the same unevolved with a Life Orb, but has a slightly higher chance to OHKO.​
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Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 108 Spe
Bold Nature
- Recover
- Baton Pass
- Giga Drain
- Nasty Plot​
 
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Bannette @ leftovers
Adamant
Cursed body
252 atk, 212 hp, 44spd
Gunk shot
Knock off
Pain split
Shadow sneak
 
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Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 108 Spe
Bold Nature
- Recover
- Baton Pass
- Giga Drain
- Nasty Plot​
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Hydreigon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Earth Power
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast

Edit: @MysticSniper beat me to the punch, but this also counters Banette as well.
 
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Bannette @ leftovers
Adamant
Cursed body
252 atk, 212 hp, 44spd
Gunk shot
Knock off
Pain split
Shadow sneak
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252+ Atk Banette Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 148+ Def Celebi: 208-246 (51.4 - 60.8%) -- 92.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Banette Shadow Sneak vs. 252 HP / 148+ Def Celebi: 104-126 (25.7 - 31.1%) -- 4.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Banette: 118-139 (36.6 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 0 SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Banette: 234-276 (72.6 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Is not really a counter, since Celebi beats Mega Banette 1v1 if it tries to switch in (which is the point of a Counter), and it can kill with NP+Giga Drain twice, or Giga Drain 3 times

Hydreigon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Earth Power
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
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Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast
- Soft-Boiled
- Thunder Wave​
 
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Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast
- Soft-Boiled
- Thunder Wave​
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Talonflame
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Acrobatics
- Roost
- Taunt
- Will-O-Wisp

Shame WoW won't be of any use, but Taunt to halt it and this T-flame can handle it no prob.​
 
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Omastar @ Choice Specs
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Knock Off​
 
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Raikou @ Assault Vest
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power Ice
- Shadow Ball

Doesn't like the Knock Off, but tanks and kills Oma with ease.​
 
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Excadrill @ assault vest
Jolly
Mold breaker
252 atk & spd, 4 sp. Def
Earthquake
Iron head
Knock off
Night slash/rapid spin

Hp ice is worthless against it, earthquake is a OHKO.
 
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