Who is your vote in Smash Ballot

[SuperMii3D]

Inklings just don't fit. I'm sorry.

Yeah, Im sorry too. But that reason just doesnt float my goat. Theyre colorful characters who have mild violence, a perfect theme for Smash Bros. Again they are unique, and they are a first party game that is being heavily advertised by Nintendo. I honestly wont be surprised if (and when ) they get in.

 

[Brook]

What moves would they have? They can turn into squids and travel on paint? Sounds super op.

 

[SuperMii3D]

What moves would they have? They can turn into squids and travel on paint? Sounds super op.

This is the part that bothers me. You claim to say that travel on paint would be op, but you do not know how this game is balanced. The team at Sora Ltd and Bandai-Namco work diligently to balance characters, so that no manner of unfair play is brought into the game. Take Diddy Kong for example. He had a broken OP hoo-ha game (I forgot what it consists of) that several Smash players complained about. Now, Diddy has been given the nerf hammer and he is even more balanced with the rest of the Smash roster. Just because an idea seems "OP" does in way mean that it will be Brawl Meta Knight broken.

 

[ArtsyThePikachu~]

I think the idea for the "smash ballot" was a great idea to hear from the smash community, and although some popular characters were only voted for as a joke (e.ge shrek, goku, etc... .infact were they a joke or did people really want to see them, we will never know xD) , a lot of the characters voted for were valid andquite interesting, hearing the return of previous smash veterans, such as Snake (please... just please) and wolf, and also new opponents, such as Shantae, Shovel Knight and Rayman. All these characters COULD definitely fit into Smash Brothers and many people have come up with interesting move sets for them, such as Shantae using her hair as a whip, using the Shovel Knights spade as a brutal weapon, and so on. Whether a lot of these characters will get into the game itself is a different story, but based on the release dates set out for Mewtwo(april) and Lucas(June) we would see up to 4 new characters as DLC entering the smash universe throughout the rest of this year, and i am excited to see who.

 

[Brook]

Yeah, Im sorry too. But that reason just doesnt float my goat. Theyre colorful characters who have mild violence, a perfect theme for Smash Bros. Again they are unique, and they are a first party game that is being heavily advertised by Nintendo. I honestly wont be surprised if (and when ) they get in.

This is the part that bothers me. You claim to say that travel on paint would be op, but you do not know how this game is balanced. The team at Sora Ltd and Bandai-Namco work diligently to balance characters, so that no manner of unfair play is brought into the game. Take Diddy Kong for example. He had a broken OP hoo-ha game (I forgot what it consists of) that several Smash players complained about. Now, Diddy has been given the nerf hammer and he is even more balanced with the rest of the Smash roster. Just because an idea seems "OP" does in way mean that it will be Brawl Meta Knight broken.

Okay, bub, here's how it breaks down. Splatoon is a very new game and just because they sound good doesn't mean they should be in. What if Splatoon sells very little copies? Smash is for the nintendo Hall Of Famers, and we don't have enough information to allow Inklings to join it.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Okay, bub, here's how it breaks down. Splatoon is a very new game and just because they sound good doesn't mean they should be in. What if Splatoon sells very little copies? Smash is for the nintendo Hall Of Famers, and we don't have enough information to allow Inklings to join it.

Awesome, that what I wanted to hear. However, Hall of Famers might be over doing it. Ice Climbers with only one game werent exactly "Hall of Fame" worthy. Sonic, Snake and Megaman arent Nintendo, so they arent part of that tradition. 3 variations of Link isnt hall of fame note worthy. Roy, who was released as the main character in one game isnt too famous.

Onto my next part, lets not deny that Splatoon wont be a thing, because it will. Several sources online have given it pretty positive reviews, and they played builds of the game. Nintendo is constantly and heavily pushing this new IP and they will continue to support Splatoon after launch with new content. Splatoon has the 3rd series of amiibo to be made, only behind Smash Bros and Mario. They represent the Shooter Genre for Nintendo. Just because its new, doesnt mean it wont get in. If I recall correctly, Greninja was a fighter in Smash (He was already being developed as a fighter in June 2013) before X and Y even came out worldwide.

I like your reason, but I have pointed some arguments against it.

 

[AlphaMagi]

I personally would like Sora to be in the game, but Disney might not let one of their characters in the Smash franchise so here's to hoping.

I agree, Sora would definitely make an awesome character. There was also Dream Drop Distance on the 3DS that was a great game. It wouldn't be too hard for Sora to be implemented into the game, since there is a fan made smash bros that has Sora and his movesets are already awesome.

 

[MLGirby]

^Also known as Super Smash Flash 2.
Play it now. It's amazing.

 

[AlphaMagi]

I think that both of the ideas are awesome! Who doesn't want an extra fighter to brawl with your friends or people online? I also think that Smash Ballot is an awesome idea because now we can have a say with what characters we want in a smash bros game!

 

[Brook]

Awesome, that what I wanted to hear. However, Hall of Famers might be over doing it. Ice Climbers with only one game werent exactly "Hall of Fame" worthy. Sonic, Snake and Megaman arent Nintendo, so they arent part of that tradition. 3 variations of Link isnt hall of fame note worthy. Roy, who was released as the main character in one game isnt too famous.

Onto my next part, lets not deny that Splatoon wont be a thing, because it will. Several sources online have given it pretty positive reviews, and they played builds of the game. Nintendo is constantly and heavily pushing this new IP and they will continue to support Splatoon after launch with new content. Splatoon has the 3rd series of amiibo to be made, only behind Smash Bros and Mario. They represent the Shooter Genre for Nintendo. Just because its new, doesnt mean it wont get in. If I recall correctly, Greninja was a fighter in Smash (He was already being developed as a fighter in June 2013) before X and Y even came out worldwide.

I like your reason, but I have pointed some arguments against it.

Okay, time for another argument. Ice Climbers may have had one game, but it was a very early game to be made. The first generations, in my opinion, all should be in the hall. Besides, Ice Climbers was moderately popular. Hall of Famers don't need to be just nintendo, but they need to help nintendo and become personally licensed with it. Why Snak was removed was because it began working with other consoles. Second, The Legend of Zelda is one of the greatest gaming franchises in the world. I wouldn't be surprised if there were six or seven characters from Zelda. Also, Fire Emblem is another valuable franchise of Nintendo. Roy was the first main character, so you can see why they added him. Third, we just don't have the info to verify Splatoon as a popular game. It's the first of its franchise. Also, Pokemon has always been successful, so I could see why they already started creating greninja's prior to x and y.

 

[Warbird]

Okay, time for another argument. Ice Climbers may have had one game, but it was a very early game to be made. The first generations, in my opinion, all should be in the hall. Besides, Ice Climbers was moderately popular. Hall of Famers don't need to be just nintendo, but they need to help nintendo and become personally licensed with it. Why Snak was removed was because it began working with other consoles. Second, The Legend of Zelda is one of the greatest gaming franchises in the world. I wouldn't be surprised if there were six or seven characters from Zelda. Also, Fire Emblem is another valuable franchise of Nintendo. Roy was the first main character, so you can see why they added him. Third, we just don't have the info to verify Splatoon as a popular game. It's the first of its franchise. Also, Pokemon has always been successful, so I could see why they already started creating greninja's prior to x and y.

I hate to bring your argument to a close, but if you search up the early results and/or you find videos explaining why Inkling should and will be brought to Smash, then you'd understand or you'd be in full denial. @SuperMii3D has a point, and it is one that I came here to make as well. It doesn't matter how well Splatoon does; it matters how much they promote it until the very end. Inklings already got an Amiibo. Do you think giving one a spot in Smash would be so hard? Nope. And even if you believe that the attacks would OP, like SuperMii pointed out as well, they have a team dedicated to balancing the fighters.

As far as saying an Inkling doesn't fit in Smash, I present you: Pac-Man. You can argue that Pac-Man is a 'pioneer' of video games, but why would he fit in Smash? And if we're talking about old video games, then where's the guy from Pitfall? And why isn't E.T. in the game? (Okay, E.T. was a terrible video game. But it was still an old game!) Now that Pac-Man is in Smash, it's obvious how he fits because of his moveset. But beforehand, would you have thought he would make a good fit for Smash? It's all about attempting, and if enough people vote Inkling in, then it'll happen. And I know that plenty of people have already voted it in.

Ice Climbers were pulled because they weren't used enough in online matches in Brawl. Roy was pulled to make room for Ike, because they didn't want to take the chance of presenting more Fire Emblem characters in the series if it wasn't as popular as they wanted it to be in North America. Obviously, Awakening attracted a new audience (3DS players) and thus we were given 2 more Fire Emblem characters. Snake and Lucas were pulled for the same reasons as the Ice Climbers; and I have no earthly idea why they're bringing Lucas back. Maybe they can rework him to make him less of a Ness clone, like they tried to differentiate Mewtwo from Lucario, since Lucario replaced Mewtwo in Brawl.

You're correct, maybe there's not much info to 'verify' that Splatoon will be a best-seller, but there is plenty of evidence to state that Splatoon is a very much hyped up and talked about game. Nintendo is about making investments that they believe will work best, and had they thought Splatoon wouldn't be popular, they wouldn't have given Inkling an Amiibo. So, no, there are no real statistics to clarify how well Splatoon will do, but there is a great deal of hype for this game and I imagine that if people continue to vote for Inkling, it will bring a huge variety to the Smash roster.

 

[Brook]

I hate to bring your argument to a close, but if you search up the early results and/or you find videos explaining why Inkling should and will be brought to Smash, then you'd understand or you'd be in full denial. @SuperMii3D has a point, and it is one that I came here to make as well. It doesn't matter how well Splatoon does; it matters how much they promote it until the very end. Inklings already got an Amiibo. Do you think giving one a spot in Smash would be so hard? Nope. And even if you believe that the attacks would OP, like SuperMii pointed out as well, they have a team dedicated to balancing the fighters.

As far as saying an Inkling doesn't fit in Smash, I present you: Pac-Man. You can argue that Pac-Man is a 'pioneer' of video games, but why would he fit in Smash? And if we're talking about old video games, then where's the guy from Pitfall? And why isn't E.T. in the game? (Okay, E.T. was a terrible video game. But it was still an old game!) Now that Pac-Man is in Smash, it's obvious how he fits because of his moveset. But beforehand, would you have thought he would make a good fit for Smash? It's all about attempting, and if enough people vote Inkling in, then it'll happen. And I know that plenty of people have already voted it in.

Ice Climbers were pulled because they weren't used enough in online matches in Brawl. Roy was pulled to make room for Ike, because they didn't want to take the chance of presenting more Fire Emblem characters in the series if it wasn't as popular as they wanted it to be in North America. Obviously, Awakening attracted a new audience (3DS players) and thus we were given 2 more Fire Emblem characters. Snake and Lucas were pulled for the same reasons as the Ice Climbers; and I have no earthly idea why they're bringing Lucas back. Maybe they can rework him to make him less of a Ness clone, like they tried to differentiate Mewtwo from Lucario, since Lucario replaced Mewtwo in Brawl.

You're correct, maybe there's not much info to 'verify' that Splatoon will be a best-seller, but there is plenty of evidence to state that Splatoon is a very much hyped up and talked about game. Nintendo is about making investments that they believe will work best, and had they thought Splatoon wouldn't be popular, they wouldn't have given Inkling an Amiibo. So, no, there are no real statistics to clarify how well Splatoon will do, but there is a great deal of hype for this game and I imagine that if people continue to vote for Inkling, it will bring a huge variety to the Smash roster.

I'm sorry, but your argument has no reason. Think about it. There is absolutely no evidence Splatoon will be popular. Also, I never said that Inkling won't make it, just that Inkling shouldn't. Ice Climbers weren't pulled for that reason. They were pulled because Smash could not compute 9 players at once. Also, Fire Emblem is very popular in North America. Also, Splatoon can't always be a great game just because Nintendo likes it. For example, Titanfall was a widely advertised game but never sold much copies. E.T. is a darn movie and can you expect a little kid on a bike with an alien puttin the moves on Link? I've never heard of the Pitfall guy and also why Pac Man was presented was because the game he was in was at least moderate fighting. I again like to state that I didn't say Inkling won't be in Smash, just that it's stupid to let him in Smas. If I was Sakurai and I had any sense of pride in my game, I would decline Inkling as an option. Also, the first generation must have a theme of fighting.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Okay, time for another argument. Ice Climbers may have had one game, but it was a very early game to be made. The first generations, in my opinion, all should be in the hall.

Wheres Excitebike, Tetris, Balloon Fight, and Clu Clu Land? Those are all from the NES and belong to Nintendo. Invalid argument.

Why Snake was removed was because it began working with other consoles.

The only reason Snake was put in the first place was because its was a personal request, and Sakurai allowed him in.

Also, Fire Emblem is another valuable franchise of Nintendo. Roy was the first main character, so you can see why they added him.

Roy was only in one game and he is the worst Lord in all of the FE games stat-wise. Awakening was the first FE game to sell over 1 million copies.

Also, Pokemon has always been successful, so I could see why they already started creating greninja's prior to x and y.

This is somewhat hypocritical. Youre saying even before the game was released, Greninja was totally going to do fine because hes a Pokemon. But what if X/Y had not been a popular game? Would you have been ok with him in the game then?

 

[Derp]

The Smash Ballot is a good idea. It helps developers decide on who will be returning or introduced into Smash 4. The developers will make a Smash player's dreams true while disappointing other Smash players for not having their dream player coming into Smash. Honestly, all i want for Smash 4 as dlc is Ivysaur. If he comes back, I will be happy.

 

[Brook]

Wheres Excitebike, Tetris, Balloon Fight, and Clu Clu Land? Those are all from the NES and belong to Nintendo. Invalid argument.

The only reason Snake was put in the first place was because its was a personal request, and Sakurai allowed him in.

Roy was only in one game and he is the worst Lord in all of the FE games stat-wise. Awakening was the first FE game to sell over 1 million copies.

This is somewhat hypocritical. Youre saying even before the game was released, Greninja was totally going to do fine because hes a Pokemon. But what if X/Y had not been a popular game? Would you have been ok with him in the game then?

Those first gen games you said do not have mild violence. Snake may have entered for that reason, but that does not mean he was pulled for the same reason. It doesn't matter of Roy was weak. He was the first and that is what matters. Besides, leaks have shown Roy is coming back. For Greninja, I speak the truth. He is going to be popular because Pokemon is popular. There is no Pokemon game that has suddenly been turned down by fans.

 

[Heattrans]

I voted for Rayman and Tetra/Toon Zelda

Rayman I can't really justify him but that fake video was so compelling and great I hope he gets in.

As for Tetra, Link gets Toon Link which is almost different in no way except his specials act a bit different and he's a lighter character . Tetra on the other hand can be a completely different and unique character since she's nothing like Sheik or Zelda. So I kind of found it unfair the way it worked out according to those facts.

It's sexist

 

[texanguy64]

To me, it seems like Inklings would be the most likely choice, and their custom specials would be really cool as well. I, however voted for Isaac from Golden Sun. The Synergy would be OP. I was thinking about voting for Professor Layton, but I had no idea what any of his specials would be. I think it'd be funny if his down-B was to turn into a golden statue and drop, like Kirby's Rock Drop.

 

[SuperMii3D]

. Those first games you said do not have mild violence. Snake may have entered for that reason, but that does not mean he was pulled for the same reason. It doesn't matter of Roy was weak. He was the first and that is what matters. Besides, leaks have shown Roy is coming back. For Greninja, I speak the truth. He is going to be popular because Pokemon is popular. There is no Pokemon game that has suddenly been turned down by fans.

Those first gen games you said do not have mild violence
What does this mean? We have Villager and Wii Fit, whos games arent violent at all. On the flip side, Balloon Fight and Tetris arent violent either.
Snake may have entered for that reason, but that does not mean he was pulled for the same reason
He was pulled because the favor had already been done
It doesn't matter of Roy was weak. He was the first and that is what matters
Actually, Marth was the first in Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and Blade of Light
For Greninja, I speak the truth. He is going to be popular because Pokemon is popular. There is no Pokemon game that has suddenly been turned down by fans.
Can you imagine if they had picked Dedenne or some other random Fairy Pokemon?

 

[Doctor Strange]

I DON'T GET THE IDEA OF INKLING IN SMASH

Its to advertise Splatoon.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Its to advertise Splatoon.

Ok, this is extremely false. Which Wii Fit game are we advertising? Which Duck Hunt game are we advertising? Which Game and Watch game are we advertising? How about F-Zero and Metroid? Saying a character gets into Smash simply because of advertisements is a false statement.